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RE: depending on poorly-thought-out portions of RDF

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:20:07 -0500
To: www-rdf-logic@w3.org
CC: Ora.Lassila@nokia.com
Message-Id: <20001214112007X.pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
[This message is a continuation of a technical discussion that was started
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A problem occurs when containers can contain themselves.  If this happens,
then the meaning of equality (and membership) becomes difficult.  I don't
see that there is any prohibition in RDF against containers containing
themselves and RDFS certainly has something akin to this with respect to CLASS.


From: Ora.Lassila@nokia.com
Subject: RE: dependence on RDF
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:59:10 -0600

> Peter,
> you wrote:
> > My (strongly-held) view is that whatever portion of RDF we
> > include or depend on [for any new version of DAML/OIL]
> > *must* provide a firm foundation for
> > our work.  It does absolutely no good whatsoever if we
> > knock ourselves out to provide a clean language with a
> > well-specified meaning for its constructs, only to include
> > a version of sets with an ill-defined membership relation
> > (to pick on a particular possible problem).
> I agree. I particularly agree that the RDF containers need work. Bags (or
> sets) shouldn't be difficult to define using a simple membership relation
> ("repeated property" in RDF terms).
> Regards,
> 	- Ora
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