- From: Simon Price <simon.price@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:33:44 +0100
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
- Cc: Phil Dawes <pdawes@users.sf.net>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
And, of course, IFP's may not be enough either in some circumstances. For example, where descriptions are partial and non-overlapping or where different (but both correct) IFPs are available in a pair of RDF descriptions, then smushing becomes non-trivial. For hand-crafted RDF, it is likely that the author will provide nice IFPs but for generated RDF (e.g from web mining) there may well be no IFPs. So, really we have a sliding scale of convenience for smushing RDF: URI > IFP > no URI/IFP. Hence, Dan's point about unrealistic expectations about URIs in the early days could be extended to cover IFPs at the present. A whole class of interesting applications of the Semantic Web are likely to arise where smushing is required without either URIs or IFPs. Cheers Simon Dan Brickley wrote: > * Phil Dawes <pdawes@users.sf.net> [2004-07-29 17:52+0000] > >>Hi All, >> >>I've noticed that some RDF specs (including FOAF and DOAP) use >>inverseFunctional properties instead of URIs to identify instance >>resources. >> >>I can see an instant benefit in doing this - end users don't need to >>worry about the problems of minting URIs, maintaining them etc.. >> >>Is this the way RDF is going - URIs for the schema, BNodes with >>InverseFunctional properties for the instancedata? >>What are the consequences? > > > I think we'll always need both. > > In FOAF I've tried to be pragmatic. When "what is 'the' URI for a > person" silliness was holding up deployment, FOAF encouraged an > emphasis on reference-by-description techniques. OWL subsequently gave > us a way of expressing simple reference-by-description strategies in a > machine readable way. But FOAF doesn't rule out the possibility of their > being URIs for people, companies, etc. It just doesn't let the current > lack of such things get in the way. > > Rob McCool and Guha in their TAP work take a similar line, advocating > reference-by-description as a useful strategy for merging Web data. > http://tap.stanford.edu/tap/rbd.html > http://tap.stanford.edu/sw002.html > > I think in the early days of RDF there was something of a fairytale > quality to the way URIs were perceived - basically a myth that all > interesting and description-worthy things will have well-known URIs. > FOAF and reference-by-description in general shouldn't be taken as an > attack on URIs as such, but as advocacy that other techniques are > useful too, and that we can write applications that figure out > common references without all parties necessarily sharing the same URIs > or even identifying expressions. > > All that said, we've a long way to go before all RDF toolkits support > InverseFunctional-based identity reasoning "out of the box"... > > Dan > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon Price, Technical Consultant, Internet Development Group Institute for Learning and Research Technology http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/aboutus/staff?search=ecsnp
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