- From: Benja Fallenstein <b.fallenstein@gmx.de>
- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:47:33 +0300
- To: Garret Wilson <garret@globalmentor.com>
- Cc: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Graham Klyne <gk@ninebynine.org>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Hi Garret,
Garret Wilson wrote:
> Benja Fallenstein wrote:
>> Someone who assigns a URI like "uri:x-people-garretwilson" to denote
>> not a person, but the *character string* G-a-r-r-e-t-_-W-i-l-s-o-n is
>> doing something really misleading :-)
>
> Nope, sorry Benja, you misread the example. I'm referring to the
> resource denoted by the lexical form "Garret Wilson". Here's the whole
> thing again:
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="uri:x-example-document">
> <dc:creator>Garret Wilson</dc:creator>
> </rdf:Description>
>
> "...But if I talk about the resource identified by the literal, "Garret
> Wilson," why can't I use a URI as well? ... I could be talking about
> 'Garret Wilson' and 'uri:x-people-garretwilson', but are those the same
> resources? Who knows?"
Well, if dc:creator is defined as having as its object the creator of
its subject, then you have stated above,
uri:x-example-document was created by the character string
G-a-r-r-e-t-_-W-i-l-s-o-n.
At least
http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-concepts/#section-Literals
says that
Literals are used to identify values such as numbers and dates by
means of a lexical representation.
and I don't think that "values such as numbers and dates" includes
people. Besides, if you allowed a literal "Garret Wilson" to identify a
person, you would have a *real* problem: What if *I* used it to denote a
*different* person?
I don't believe that RDF allows for this; refering to such concepts as
people is what URI resources are for, so that you and I will use
different URIs when speaking about different things, which we might
refer to through the same character string. Literals are for numbers,
dates, character strings, and so on.
So hopefully, for this example, dc:creator is actually defined as having
as its object the *name* of the creator of its subject.
Cheers,
- Benja
Received on Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:47:48 UTC