Re: making statements about a graph

On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:35:48 +0100, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="#u1">
> ~  <dc:language rdf:ID="r1">EN</dc:language>
> </rdf:Description>
> 
> is the same graph as
> 
> <rdf:Statement rdf:ID="r1">
> ~   <rdf:subject rdf:resource="#ul" />
> ~   <rdf:predicate rf:resource="dc:languages" />
> ~   <rdf:object>EN</rdf:object>
> </rdf:Statement>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="#u1" dc:language="EN"/>

I was under the impression that those gave different graphs. The first is

#u1 -- dc:language -> EN

I think the second is

_:r1 -- rdf:subject -> #ul
_:r1 -- rdf:predicate -> dc:languages
_:r1 -- rdf:object -> "EN"
#u1 -- dc:language -> "EN"

where _:r1 is suppsed to represent the b-node, but that has not reified
the triple, its made a statement about the subject of it.
 
> do you think reification is messed up in RDF or just the way it is
> serialized in RDF/XML?

Well, standard RDF has no real way of refering to reified triples (other
than by exploding them) as it has no support for quads - which is where
this started.

- Steve