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Re: Standard URI Set, ... -> keep it simple ?

From: Bill Kearney <wkearney99@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:01:13 -0400
Message-ID: <05ce01c31ffd$a45fbaf0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com>
To: "Leo Sauermann" <leo@ist.org>, <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>

There is also the effort being done on XRI:

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo Sauermann" <leo@ist.org>
To: "'Sherman Monroe'" <shermanmonroe@yahoo.com>; <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:21 PM
Subject: RE: Standard URI Set, ... -> keep it simple ?

I am designing and implementing a framework right now that uses uris
with a "own" schema part.
but that is very experimental and I think I am dancing on thin ice with
- W3C won't be happy to introduce a new schema (I think, hey, what does
W3C think?)
- this will result in a new Port number and protocol and THAT is not
required. we got http, thats fine, SOAP is nice, too :-)
- every application from web browser to Java.io.URL will have problems
with rdp://
so this is my fear of change
but i have some practical experience here, too:
= go ahead, create the new protocol =
rdp:// sounds cool and it will be surely needed.
but what kind of protocol is it anyway ?
i am developing some kind of protocol right now but what protocol should
we use ?
- Sesame-style
- RDFSuite-style 
- RDFGateway-style
- ????
so I'd say do it W3C style:
propose a protocol and have it discussed.
= stick to HTTP as transfer protocol =
think of proxys and ports
think of "fear of change"
= use a new DOMAIN NAME =
just add a http://rdf.microsoft.com/billgates and everybody is happy ? 
This has been best practice since 1970 ? 
you know: pop.ms.com, news.ms.com, smtp.ms.com 
and you are really amazed when typing
http://pop3.server.com and see that some wise guy installed a web
interface for your email server.
like a web interface on your RDF server ?
= use TRICKY URLS that everybody can understand =
and thats my own experience from programming :  Example
I have a server with my rdf data:
I have some files there that belong to ME and i use
file <file://rdf.leolize.it/~leo/semweb/thesis.doc> ://rdf <file://rdf>
the server itself may have public files, too
file <file://rdf.leolize.it/~pub/music/iLikeKaraoke.mp3> ://rdf
<file://rdf/> .leolize.it/~pub/music/iLikeKaraoke.mp3
this is the uri of a person:
and HERE is my problem that I have to admit - solve the same way as you
i have an outlook appointment that belongs to user LEO
well, i really came far but not far enough to stick to my rules
mentioned above, perhaps i could just use http:// here....
... what remains is fear of change ....
hope this injects inspiration
Leo Sauermann
Vienna, Austria
Received on Wednesday, 21 May 2003 21:01:22 UTC

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