- From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:02:40 +0300
- To: ext Michael Kifer <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu>
- CC: RDF Interest <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
On 2002-06-04 9:51, "ext Michael Kifer" <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2002-06-04 3:11, "ext Michael Kifer" <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> "SR" == "Seth Russell" <of Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:35:26 PDT> writes:
>>>
>>> MK> NTriples can be naturally encoded in XML and exchanged.
>>>
>>> SR> Is that actually true? How?
>>>
>>> <triple><subject ...>subj</subject><property>...</property> <object> ...
>>> </object> </triple>
>>
>> Why of course. Why did we not see this before?!
>>
>> We can just use a subset of RDF instead of NTriples:
>>
>> <rdf:RDF ...>
>> <rdf:Statement>
>> <rdf:subject rdf:resource="http://foo.com/bar"/>
>> <rdf:predicate rdf:resource="voc://abc.org/blarrg"/>
>> <rdf:object rdf:resource="#node12345"/>
>> </rdf:Statement>
>> <rdf:Statement>
>> <rdf:subject rdf:resource="#node12345"/>
>> <rdf:predicate rdf:resource="voc://abc.org/booga"/>
>> <rdf:object>Gumby</rdf:object>
>> </rdf:Statement>
>> ...
>> </rdf:RDF>
>>
>> I hereby propose we toss NTriples altogether and just use RDF/XML
>> as above for all test cases output.
>>
>> RDF/XML provides all the mechanisms needed to explicitly express
>> the precise triples existing in any RDF graph, as RDF/XML.
>>
>> (not really joking about this, actually ;-)
>
> Neither am I. A fine interchange format. The triples languages are for
> humans; their xml serializations -- for machines.
Well, technically, human-usability motivations for NTriples and N3
are out of scope for the RDF specs, as RDF really is about machine
interchange -- not human interfaces to knowledge representation.
It's the same as XML. Lots of folks slammed XML for its serialization
(many still do ;-) until structured and graphical editors for XML
came on the scene.
I have no problems with folks using alternate serializations of
RDF because they are limited to text-only editors and wish to
reduce keystrokes, etc. but please don't propose that such
serializations replace the official XML serialization for RDF.
OK?
Cheers,
Patrick
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Received on Tuesday, 4 June 2002 02:59:36 UTC