- From: <Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com>
- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:46:51 +0300
- To: tshipley@symbio-tech.com, Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com, lee.jonas@cakehouse.co.uk, decoy@iki.fi
- Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Trent Shipley [mailto:tshipley@symbio-tech.com]
> Sent: 10 June, 2001 04:56
> To: Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com; lee.jonas@cakehouse.co.uk;
> decoy@iki.fi
> Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> Subject: RE: rdfms-resource-semantics
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> Without regard to the actual specifications for the various
> UR*s, are you
> arguing that they *ought* to be used something like this:
>
> --Pointers--
>
> ----Implicit pointers
>
> (Implicit pointers can be de-referenced, and [in theory] the referent
> retrieved.)
>
> ------Automated pointers
> (The referent of an automated pointer can be retrieved by an
> automata.)
>
> Examples of automated pointers.
>
> char * p. de-reference using *p
>
> http://www.foo.bar/index.html.
>
>
> By analogy a URL *should* indicate an automated pointer.
> (With the proviso,
> that like any pointer it might in fact be dangling or void when
> de-referenced.)
>
>
> ------an-automated pointers
>
> (A non-automated pointer is not guaranteed to be retrievable
> by an automata,
> but by definition pointer _itself_ will--in principle--tell you how to
> locate the referent.)
>
> Examples:
>
> You wisely held put derivative on the NASDAQ index in October 2000 and
> decided to let it come due. The entity referenced (a
> quantity of US e-$s)
> appeared automatically in your brokerage account when the
> contract came due,
> successfully hedging investments in technology stocks.
>
> You held futures in barley due in January 2001. Since you
> were going to
> open a brewery you decided to take delivery on the contract.
> Your contract
> partner faxed your broker that your five metric tons of wheat
> were sitting
> in the harbor at Rotterdam. How you got it to New York was your @#$%
> business.
>
>
> In principle all URI's should be treated as an-automated
> implicit pointers.
>
> ----Logical pointers
>
> (Logical pointers, unlike implicit pointers cannot be
> de-referenced without
> explicit access to the translation table.)
>
> Examples:
>
> The literal "stupid" you have to know that this must be
> de-referenced using
>
> #! perl
> my %stupid_hash{"stupid"};
>
> Or
>
> The RDF entry in a web page refers to the Library of Congress subject
> category "G".
> You have to have treat "G" as a logical reference and know
> that you will
> look it up in the LC-Guide-To-WWW-Subject-Codes. There you
> will see it
> codes for "anthropology, general".
>
>
> In principle all URN's should be treated as logical pointers.
>
>
> ---
>
> RDF pointers are mostly names referring to internal
> categories; therefore
> (in the main), RDF pointers should be URNs.
>
> ---------------
>
> Is this a reasonable representation of your position?
Insofar as I fully and acurately understood it, yes, I believe it
is. (should I now duck?) ;-)
Patrick
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