- From: McBride, Brian <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:16:35 -0000
- To: "'Jonas Liljegren'" <jonas@rit.se>, "McBride, Brian" <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>, Seth Russell <seth@robustai.net>, RDF-IG <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
[snip] > Here is the example from M&S: > > <rdf:RDF > xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" > xmlns:a="http://description.org/schema/"> > <rdf:Description> > <rdf:subject resource="http://www.w3.org/Home/Lassila" /> > <rdf:predicate > resource="http://description.org/schema/Creator" /> > <rdf:object>Ora Lassila</rdf:object> > <rdf:type > resource="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Statement" /> > <a:attributedTo>Ralph Swick</a:attributedTo> > </rdf:Description> > </rdf:RDF> > > The example uses the property a:attributedTo. You can't attribute an > abstract statement to one person. The example view the reified > statement as a stating. I disagree. I may assert the statement S1. You may assert it. Dan may assert it. This can be modelled just fine by adding a:attributedTo properties as in the example you give above, quoting from M&S. > > The reasoning for this is the same as before. Let me repeat the > example using This example. No! The claim was that the examples in M&S have a problem. If that is true, that could be good reason for changing M&S. But the example you use to point out a problem is not in M&S. The examples in M&S work just fine. [snip] > > For the record, section 5, the formal model section of M&S states: > > > > There is a set called Statements, each element of which > is a triple > > of the form {pred, sub, obj} > > > > That says that each Statement is a triple of the form (s,p,o). A > > triple in mathematics is uniquely determined by its three > components. > > Right. But we can't say the same about the reified statement. There > can be many reifications of the same statement. A good distinction. Again from M&S 4.1: A new resource with the above four properties represents the original statement ... The case to be met is that a statement is a triple (s,p,o) which is uniquely defined by its three components. The exert I just quoted from M&S 4.1 says that a reified statement models a statement. Not the stating of a statement. Current M&S implies therefore that a reified statement is uniquely determined by its subject, predicate and object. I appreciate the efforts you have just gone to be clear. You have helped my understanding of the issue. If I remain unconvinced, its not out of a lack of respect for your position. However, it seems to me that the answer is in M&S, though one has to search for it. Brian McBride HPLabs
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