- From: Bill dehOra <BdehOra@interx.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:58:21 -0000
- To: "'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Hi, Apologies if this has been discussed before, I couldn't find anything in the archive. I have question to do with the procedure for "undoing" a reification. Suppose I have statements in the form S:[subject, predicate, object], in some api with a Model M (a la Jena or Stanford) and I have one such statement in M: S' :[s, p, o]. and I reify it paraphrasing the RDFm recc as follows with respect the resource Rx by adding four triples to M: S'' :[Rx, rdf:type, rdf:Statement] S''' :[Rx, rdf:subject, s] S'''' :[Rx, rdf:predicate, p] S''''' :[Rx, rdf:object, o] The RDFm recc states: "From the standpoint of an RDF processor, facts (that is, statements) are triples that are members of Statements. Therefore, the original statement remains a fact despite it being reified since the triple representing the original statement remains in Statements. We have merely added four more triples. " Fine, that tells me what to do to reify a statement. And that gives me M containing: S' :[s, p, o]. S'' :[Rx, rdf:type, rdf:Statement] S''' :[Rx, rdf:subject, s] S'''' :[Rx, rdf:predicate, p] S''''' :[Rx, rdf:object, o] But it doesn't tell me what to do to unreify a statement. . So, what can I expect to happen when: a: I remove Rx? b: I remove any of the added four triples? c: I remove S' Can I assume that any removal operation above has the side effect of removing other statements (the four added triples)? I think it should remove them. I also think it should barf if an attempt is made to remove any of S''', S'''', S'''' before Rx or S'', 'cos that's nice and handy. But this implies some statements are to be treated differently from other statements. Or perhaps that some statements are not independent (this may be a tarpit if we hold that statements are indeed facts: yuck). I don't want to even think about what should happen when any of S'', S''', S'''', S''''' is in turn reified by another four triples... Is it explicitly stated anywhere what the correct behavior is? And if it isn't, should the behavior of any RDF processor that allows removing statements that reify other statements be specifically outlined ? I think it's probable that RDF Models which allow unreification need some form of transaction semantics or truth maintenance. -Bill de hÓra
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