- From: Jonas Liljegren <jonas@rit.se>
- Date: 29 Dec 2000 00:36:23 +0100
- To: Graham Klyne <GK@Dial.pipex.com>
- Cc: RDF interest group <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>, Wraf development <rdf@uxn.nu>
Graham Klyne <GK@Dial.pipex.com> writes:
> It seems to me that, given an RDF graph, I should be able to extract
> an arbitrary subgraph (i.e. a subset of the statements) and still have
> a valid RDF graph. The RDF approach to containers doesn't permit
> this, because (I think) the following is not valid per RDF M&S:
>
> [Foo] --rdf:type--> [rdf:Bag]
> [ ] --rdf:_1----> [Member1]
> [ ] --rdf:_3----> [Member3]
I say that it must be valid. I would even allow:
[Foo] --rdf:type--> [rdf:Bag]
[ ] --rdf:_1----> [Member1]
[ ] --rdf:_1----> [OtherMember1]
[ ] --rdf:_3----> [Member3]
This because anyone can say anything about everything.
> >In Wraf [2] I'm planning to store container members in a special way,
> >optimized for compact storage and easy manipulation. With such
> >optimizations, there is no need for another type of
> >rdfs:ContainerMembershipProperty.
>
> I'd suggest that you are, in effect, implementing something slightly
> different than that specified by RDF M&S. I want (need) to make the
> required difference explicit in my model.
Nobody can stop me if I feel like renumbering the properties of a
bag. But it should be clear that the new statements is not the
original ones.
> >1. With special methods for conatiner handling, you will not have to
> > bother about the present content. Wraf will give each container
> > the dynamic property 'size', and methods for adding and quering the
> > container without knowing each propertys number.
>
> This assumes that your implementation knows about all of the members.
> I think that's a kind of closed-world view.
No. The size statement has a source. Other sources can have another
idea about the size of the container. The statement will belong to a
model and that model will have data about the scope of the known world.
> > [1] http://public.research.mimesweeper.com/RDF/RDFContexts.html
> > [2] http://www.uxn.nu/wraf/
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/ Jonas Liljegren
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Received on Thursday, 28 December 2000 18:35:05 UTC