- From: Butler, Mark <Mark_Butler@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:32:16 +0100
- To: "'www-rdf-dspace@w3.org'" <www-rdf-dspace@w3.org>
Hi Andy RE: Works, Images and Files This is a good point. One extra thing we could do is cross-check our model against the FRBR (Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records) spec http://www.ifla.org/VII/s13/frbr/frbr.pdf They have a group 1 entity which is divided into four classes (see page 21 of the spec): work, expression, manifestation and item. There is a corrspondance here: VRA:work corresponds to FRBR:work VRA:image corresponds to FRBR:manifestation VRA:file corresponds to FRBR:item So perhaps we would be best using the FRBR terminology? RE: The concept of creator This is a good point, and again FRBR is relevant here. They introduce group 2 entities, which can either be people or corporate bodies, and are capable of having "created by", "realized by", "produced by" and "owned by" relationships with group 1 entities. So perhaps we need to make a superclass (any suggestions for name?) for Person and CorporateBody, which is the range of the "createdBy" property. Artstor seems to expect these type of relations, as in the XML version the <Creator> element can have subelements <Personal_Name> and <Corporate_Name>. RE: Subject, Geographic, Topic The way I interpreted this information was that Portraits, Italy and Drawing are keywords associated with this work. The tags around Italy and Drawing are subproperties, which indicate they are keywords from a geographic controlled vocabulary and a topic controlled vocabulary respectively. However your point that the relationship between the keywords and the work are ill-defined is a fair one, but often the case with keywords - perhaps MacKenzie can comment here? The other important bit of FRBR that seems to be missing from our conceptual model are group 3 entities: concept, object, event and place. In FRBR, works can have a "has subject" relationship to group 1, group 2 or group 3 entities. RE: Why is relation a class? This was based on my reading of the XML schema, rather than any modelling decision. In the schema says that a relation can consist of - a text item - an identity element - a type element and it seems like it multiple relations are possible e.g. <Relation> <Identity>Head of a Woman, by Leonardo da Vinci</Identity> <Type>Copy</Type> </Relation> <Relation> <Identity>Photographic Study, by Vincent Steels</Identity> <Type>Photograph</Type> </Relation> although admittedly I am guessing here without seeing more examples of their data. So I thought we needed a class because type and identity need to be associated together. However, as you note, from modelling perspective, relation does not seem a good candidate for a class. I'm not sure how to resolve this. The FRBR spec does discuss relationships between group 1 entities, see page 53, perhaps this is relevant? kind regards, Dr Mark H. Butler Research Scientist HP Labs Bristol mark-h_butler@hp.com Internet: http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/marbut/
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