- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:33:25 +0000
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>, www-rdf-calendar@w3.org
Dan, At a quick glance, this looks very similar to the network access use-case I have been working on (and am working to extend to Linux firewall configuration, BTW). I'm not sure from this message what your specific problem may be. I think the 'Currently [OPEN]' aspect is an interesting challenge, as I think it will require some inference capabilities that are knowledgeable about time and calendar values. But I don't see that as a data-mixing problem, which seems to be your thrust. Turning to your specific question... the approach I tool was, rather than listing some open and closed values, to simply list the "open" times (or, in my case, "access allowed") associated with a particular access permission. This was done reasonably easily with Libby's Hybrid schema, and we have started to rework these using the new schema. E.g. (in N3): [[ homenet:PlayTimes a ical:Vcalendar ; user:rangeName "PlayTimes" ; rdfs:label "Times that non-work access is allowed" ; ical:component [ a ical:Vevent ; ical:dtstart [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T084500" ] ; ical:dtend [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T101500" ] ; ical:rrule [ a ical:Vrecur ; ical:freq "WEEKLY" ; ical:interval "1" ; ical:byday "MO,TU,WE,TH,FR" ] ] ; ical:component [ a ical:Vevent ; ical:dtstart [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T160000" ] ; ical:dtend [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T164500" ] ; ical:rrule [ a ical:Vrecur ; ical:freq "WEEKLY" ; ical:interval "1" ; ical:byday "MO,TU,WE,TH,FR" ] ] ; ical:component [ a ical:Vevent ; ical:dtstart [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T200000" ] ; ical:dtend [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T220000" ] ; ical:rrule [ a ical:Vrecur ; ical:freq "WEEKLY" ; ical:interval "1" ; ical:byday "MO,TU,WE,TH,FR" ] ] ; ical:component [ a ical:Vevent ; ical:dtstart [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T084500" ] ; ical:dtend [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T111500" ] ; ical:rrule [ a ical:Vrecur ; ical:freq "WEEKLY" ; ical:interval "1" ; ical:byday "SA,SU" ] ] ; ical:component [ a ical:Vevent ; ical:dtstart [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T160000" ] ; ical:dtend [ a ical:Vtime ; rdf:value "T220000" ] ; ical:rrule [ a ical:Vrecur ; ical:freq "WEEKLY" ; ical:interval "1" ; ical:byday "SA,SU" ] ] ; rdfs:comment """ Designated play times: weekdays: 08:45-10:15, 16:00-16:45, 20:00-22:00 weekends: 08:45-11:15, 16:00-22:00 """ . ]] (The above is a little dubious to the extent that no start date is given for the recurring events. Personally, I think that's the natural way to do this kind of thing.) #g -- At 12:28 12/03/2003 -0500, Dan Brickley wrote: >(I was going to talk about this in the IRC chat but I figured an >email might be a bit more coherent) > >RDF calendar for small business opening hours Use Case >====================================================== > >I think Greg Fitzpatrick has done a lot of thinking on this topic. I don't >have a handy pointer to prior writeups though. > >I understand the RDF calendar vocab at http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/ >now has a representation of recurring events. Here's a use case that >emphasises RDF's strong points: data mixing. > >I would like to use RDF calendar 'recurring events' to represent opening >hours of shops and other services. In particular I'm interested in using the >Semantic Web to support local small businesses, by mixing descriptions of >their opening hours with other useful information: homepage of shop, >opening hours, contact info, photograph of premises, lat/lang/alt location >information, some indication of product lines and individual items for sale. > >I think I've a handle on how to do most everything except the calendar stuff. > >Here's an example, any help with expressing their opening hours in RDF >would be greatly appreciated! > >http://www.tuftslife.com/dining/menuview.php?ID=00029&pg=4 >(from a restaurant info aggregator) > >This lists the menus and other info for local restaurants here in >Somerville, MA USA. The menus are currently images of paper menus, so >there is scope for progress there. See also http://chefmoz.org/rdf.html >for more RDF/food work. > >The bit I'm currently interested in is this: > >It says, 'Currently [OPEN]', based on info about opening hours. Their >summary for the 'Urban Gourmet' place around the corner from here: > > [[ > Monday Closed > Tuesday 4:00pm - 11:00pm > Wednesday 11:30am - 11:00pm > Thursday 11:30am - 11:00pm > Friday 11:30am - 11:00pm > Saturday 11:30am - 11:00pm > Sunday 11:30am - 11:00pm > ]] > >So longwinded question unpacked: how do I express this in RDF? Can we >use recurrence rules expressed over ical in RDF as the basis? Is extra >vocab needed? > >thanks for any suggestions, > >Dan ------------------- Graham Klyne <GK@NineByNine.org> PGP: 0FAA 69FF C083 000B A2E9 A131 01B9 1C7A DBCA CB5E
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