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Re: f2f draft agenda posted

From: Mark Skall <mark.skall@nist.gov>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:45:50 -0500
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To: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com>, Patrick Curran <Patrick.Curran@Sun.COM>
Cc: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>, www-qa-wg@w3.org

I also strongly agree that we need more time for TestGL.  It seems like 
we've spent an inordinate amount of time on SpecGL (even before we received 
all the comments) and very little time on TestGL. For SpecGL, we devised a 
strategy, as a group, and even revised the strategy.  No corresponding 
discussion was ever held for TestGL. Unless we have some quality f2f 
discussion, we'll never advance TestGL.


  At 11:11 PM 2/26/2004 +0200, Dimitris Dimitriadis wrote:

>I second that, in addition want to stress the importance of bringing 
>issues in sync with Spec and Ops (there's lots on terminology and sorting 
>out issues that are inherently process and should therefore be in Ops, and 
>issues that belong to a grey zone between the two). In addition, we want 
>to have a clear picture of our issues since many of them have been posed 
>by more than one person from different perspectives.
>Looking at the agenda draft (paste below), what about allowing for an 
>extra hour and a half during the afternoon (from QAF CR major 
>issues/wrapup etc)? Wrapup and future meetings is typically quite fast. In 
>that case, that extra time would need to be minuted by someone else except 
>for me since I'll take active part in the discussion.
>Tuesday AM -- 0830 - 1200 -- QAWG topics
>      Scribe: Dominique HazaŽl-Massieux
>      Morning break: 1015
>       test questionnaire, results
>         Mary Brady presentation,
>         test deliverables review/status,
>         overview of TestGL issues list (**),
>           issue status update
>         TestGL/ET status and outlook.
>Lunch break: 1200 - 1300
>Tuesday PM -- 1300 - 1700
>      Scribe: Dimitris Dimitriadis
>      Afternoon break: 1530
>         QAF CR major issues (continued from Monday),
>         wrapup, future meetings, etc.
>On Thursday, Feb 26, 2004, at 22:55 Europe/Athens, Patrick Curran wrote:
>>I'm disappointed at the small amount of time allocated for TestGL. We're 
>>behind with this effort, but we do now have a public issues list. As 
>>we've seen, it's difficult to get responses to issues by email - 
>>scheduling time for group discussion seems to be the most effective way 
>>to make progress. We don't get together very often, and I really would 
>>like to push forward on this.
>>Is there any chance of shuffling things so we could spend more time on 
>>Lofton Henderson wrote:
>>>QAWG --
>>>The draft f2f agenda is at:
>>>Suggestions, questions, discussion are welcome.
>>>It's linked from:

Mark Skall
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