- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 07:36:10 -0600
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
- Cc: joseph Reagle <reagle@w3.org>
[..Note switch to WG list..]
For the telecon...
Ref:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-qaframe-ops-20030210/#Ck-proc-define-licenses
Ref:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-qaframe-ops-20030210/#Ck-proc-define-pub-licenses
Here is a repair for the confusion I may have caused yesterday. A complete
restatement of:
* the issue synopsis/history,
* proposed way forward,
* scope of telecon issue discussion,
* proposed new text for CP5.3 and CP6.2
Synopsis:
=====
QAWG has worked on the "Test Materials License" issue [4] for over a year.
While we have defined and fleshed out the sub-issues nicely (see linked
Boston minutes and status summary), on the other hand forward progress has
stopped.
Because of the nature of the issue and the interests of the stakeholders,
it has been suggested that this issue belong in a larger, W3C-wide
forum. Karl proposed, ""Maybe we should present the different opinions to
w3m and ask if there's a possible solution at a larger member level? AC Forum."
Issue #59 about CP5.3 (TM submission licenses) was previous resolved, and
has not been reopened: "No, we won't try to devise W3C-wide submission
licenses". In the "pre-LC" comments, Joseph requested removal of the 2nd
paragraph, and also requested removal of the third, that points to examples."
Issue #49, about CP6.2 (TM publication licenses) has since June 2002 been
tied to a proposed "TM License" that we thought was a good idea. However,
we have not been able to come to closure and consensus on the details since
June 2002. All that we have been able to agree to is: Document or
Software may apply; the "no-modification" proviso of "Document" is
attractive but not always applicable; different licenses may be used for
Test Documentation, Test Cases, Test Software.
There is disagreement between W3C Legal and the counsels of some member
companies, whether the lack of a "use" clause in Document prevents
potential TM users from needed ways of using the
Proposed way forward
=====
Meanwhile -- while this is being pursued -- OpsGL must find a way forward
that is acceptable to the various interested parties. Following is a
proposal for such a way forward, that allows OpsGL to progress (to CR, and
beyond).
We will refer the problems to some forum such as AC Forum (per Karl's
suggestion).
1.) Our goal for next OpsGL. In 5.3 and 6.2, to document what is the
current reality, and require WGs to document these aspects of their
processes. We will not try to invent anything new here.
2.) fix the wording of CP5.3 and CP6.2 along the lines proposed below
(deletions from 5.3; removal of reference to our draft "TM License" from
6.1 and adjustment of wording there.)
3.) have QA team/staff implement Karl's proposal, "present the different
opinions to w3m and ask if there's a possible solution at a larger member
level? AC Forum."
Scope of telecon discussion
=====
1.) endorse this approach, or not;
2.) seek clarification of reason for removing examples from 5.3 (we have a
problem with OpsGL and OpsET if we can't offer any examples);
3.) where and how can W3C Legal & member companies discuss and reach
consensus on the 'use' question;
4.) in the meantime, should there be a caveat in 6.2, to the effect that
"not all legal experts agree on the scope of 'use' rights under the
Document license" (which we now promote, if applicable, for
non-modification reasons)?
Proposed new CP5.3 text
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(Current:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-qaframe-ops-20030210/#Ck-proc-define-licenses )
Checkpoint 5.3. Address license terms for submitted test materials.
[Priority 1]
Conformance requirements: in its QA Process Document the WG MUST define a
submission license policy applicable to test materials submitted to the WG
by external parties, and the submission license policy MUST include at
least an outline of terms, conditions, constraints, and principles that
will govern acceptable submissions to the WG.
Rationale. Defining submission license policies in advance will help
clarify the WG's expectations to prospective TM submitters, and will
facilitate the efficient negotiation of any needed custom submission
licenses with submitters.
Discussion. Unless exempted by custom submission terms with W3C Director's
approval, a WG's submission license policies will necessarily conform to
standard W3C policies for submitted materials, and specifically those
procedures and terms defined in Contribution of Software or Test Materials
to W3C [CONTRIB].
[deleted 2nd & 3rd paragraph]
Note. This checkpoint is about the terms under which a WG accepts test
materials contributions. Related @@CP6.2@@ is about licenses under which
WGs publish test materials.
Proposed new CP6.2 text
=====
(Current:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-qaframe-ops-20030210/#Ck-proc-define-pub-licenses
)
Checkpoint 6.2. Define the licenses applicable to published test materials.
[Priority 1]
Conformance requirements: the Working Group MUST define in its QA Process
Document the licenses that are applicable to published test materials.
Rationale. Any W3C-hosted materials must have approved license and use
terms associated. Because there is no single license that is appropriate
for all test materials, the WG needs consider the options, select or define
a best license for its particular test materials, and clearly inform
potential users.
Discussion. Currently approved W3C licenses that may be applied to test
materials are the Document License and the Software License. The Document
license has two characteristics that are valuable to test materials:
* It prohibits the test materials from being modified by the user upon
download, therefore guaranteeing the integrity of the test mateials;
* It requires that if the test materials are copied or redistributed,
they must contain the link to the original test materials and their status.
[Here is where there would be a 'use' caveat about Doc License, if we
decide one is needed.]
However, there are situations in which the Document License is unworkable
-- for example, there are Test Materials that require modification or
completion in order to apply them.
Test Materials may contain any of these three components: test software,
test documentation, and test cases. It is possible and sometimes desirable
that the WG apply different licenses to different components.
If the WG considers that neither the Document nor the Software License is
applicable, it should consult with W3C Legal.
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Regards,
-Lofton.
Received on Thursday, 1 May 2003 09:34:03 UTC