- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:24:22 -0700
- To: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com>
- Cc: www-qa-wg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030122101631.01e804a0@rockynet.com>
Might I suggest one additional change (and I can make it and post the result to our Web site, as the current agreed draft, if you like): Currently under deliverables: > * Develop tools and tool kits of general usefulness to help WGs > develop test materials. > >It is desirable that the Test Task Force build tools (test materials), >resources allowing. 1.) That last bullet was added after recent discussions; 2.) I think that the "test materials" has the potential to confuse -- i.e., that we propose to build a WGs test suites, etc. We do NOT. We do intend to provide useful toolkits etc, and will build them if necessary, resources permitting. So I propose the above be changed to: > * Develop tools and tool kits of general usefulness to help WGs > develop test materials, resources allowing. Okay? -Lofton. At 09:25 PM 1/21/03 +0100, Dimitris Dimitriadis wrote: >All, > >Suggested changes incorporated in this version of the draft. Thanks Lynne >and Lofton for feedback. > >/Dimitris > > ><br> ><br> > >On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Lynne Rosenthal wrote: > >>Dimitris >> >>Some suggested changes on the TTF Charter. >> >>For Mission I suggest the following reword: >>The mission of the QA WG Test Task Force (TTF) is to ensure that >>guidelines in the QA test guidelines documents are put into practice by >>W3C Working Groups. >> >>For Scope, I suggest the following reword and additions. >>The TTF scope is to: >>· Ensure the use of practices required by the QAWG Guideline >>documents. >>· Provide technical expertise to assist and support W3C Working >>Groups in providing Test Materials for their specifications. >>· Find tools that implement the QAWG Guideline techniques and where >>there are none, prototype or participate in the development of a tool. >> >>In addition, the TTF produces in association with others or on its own, >>Test Frameworks to ensure that test materials produced in the W3C Working >>Groups can be used, where applicable, by others. >> >>-Lynne >> >> >>X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >>Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:00 -0500 (EST) >>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:46:47 +0100 >>Cc: ot@w3.org >>To: www-qa-wg@w3.org >>From: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com> >>X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) >>Subject: My action items AI-20030108-2 and AI-20030108-3 (Test Task Force >>Charter) completed >>X-Archived-At: >><http://www.w3.org/mid/AFC04BD3-29D6-11D7-9F71-000393556882@ontologicon.com>http://www.w3.org/mid/AFC04BD3-29D6-11D7-9F71-000393556882@ontologicon.com >> >>Resent-From: www-qa-wg@w3.org >>X-Mailing-List: <www-qa-wg@w3.org> archive/latest/1393 >>X-Loop: www-qa-wg@w3.org >>Sender: www-qa-wg-request@w3.org >>Resent-Sender: www-qa-wg-request@w3.org >>List-Id: <www-qa-wg.w3.org> >>List-Help: <<http://www.w3.org/Mail/>http://www.w3.org/Mail/> >>List-Unsubscribe: >><<mailto:www-qa-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe>mailto:www-qa-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >>All, >> >>Attached please find the new version of the TTF charter, in time for AC >>contacts, as requested earlier this week. >> >>All minuted changes from the F2F were incorporated (except for the part >>on templates of test materials, which I cannot remember having either >>voted for or abstained from voting on during the F2F according to an >>earlier email to the list). >> >>For the archives, I again want to stress that I do not agree that we >>should strive for not enforcing that test techniques as defined and >>discussed in other QA WG materials be used. Our current wording (on which >>we reached consensus during the F2F) is "ensure". I cannot, on the one >>hand, understand what makes "ensure" different from "enforce", except if >>"ensure" means that we just check for something having been done by >>someone else (which means that in order to ensure, someone needs to have >>enforced, except for cases where all gets done voloutarily); on the other >>I think this is merely words and that it does not really make that big a >>difference. >> >>Again, I updated the draft as per the minutes, but I want it archived >>that I do not agree with this weaker wording. Some group needs to enforce >>that things be done, if not this group then some other. However, as this >>is my personal view and not that of the QA WG, the TTF charter does not >>reflect that. >> >>As for AI-20030108-2, assuring uniformity means, as mentioned in the >>updated draft, that QA WG "approved" test techniques as per our documents >>are used as much as possible (the set of those tools defining uniform use). >> >>Olivier, please update the action items list accordingly. >> >>/Dimitris >> >> >> ><br> ></blockquote></x-html>
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