[all] MMI minutes November 14, 2016

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   [1]W3C

 

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                               - DRAFT -

 

                                 MMI WG

 

14 Nov 2016

 

   [2]Agenda

 

      [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Nov/0004.html

 

   See also: [3]IRC log

 

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-irc

 

Attendees

 

   Present

          Debbie, Helena, Kaz

 

   Regrets

   Chair

          Debbie

 

   Scribe

          kaz

 

Contents

 

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]actions

         2. [6]Use Case GitHub

         3. [7]Charter

     * [8]Summary of Action Items

     * [9]Summary of Resolutions

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actions

 

   <ddahl> action-443

 

   <trackbot> action-443 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Write up the use

   case of millions of images from tpac and send to the group list

   -- due 2016-06-27 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [10]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/443

 

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/443

 

   ddahl: kind of old action

   ... do you still want to finish that?

 

   helena: working with github

   ... not sure if the CMS works

   ... taking the action items in order

 

   ddahl: checking in something?

 

   helena: yes

   ... another question about the table for use case description

 

   ddahl: we had another action item about the use case template,

   action-457

   ... that would address the question

   ... regarding action-443 itself, you're working on that?

 

   helena: yes

 

   <ddahl> action-454?

 

   <trackbot> action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into

   text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [11]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454

 

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454

 

   ddahl: had the above action item

   ... working on that

   ... one question about GitHub

   ... can I commit my changes?

 

   kaz: yes

 

   <ddahl> action-457?

 

   <trackbot> action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a

   strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in

   a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [12]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457

 

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457

 

   kaz: not yet done

 

   ddahl: do you think we still need the table itself?

 

   kaz: no, don't think so

 

   ddahl: would be easier to handle the use case description

   ... do you think you still need ACTION-457?

 

   kaz: yes

 

   <ddahl> action-458

 

   <trackbot> action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person

   our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile

   our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [13]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458

 

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458

 

   kaz: some simple diagram would make the description easier to

   under stand

 

   helena: not yet done

   ... need to send a message to Sebastian

 

   kaz: fyi, the WoT IG is restarting use case discussion to

   clarify the requirements for the WoT scripting

   ... so at some point, we should talk with Johannes as well

 

   helena: ok

 

   <ddahl> action-459

 

   <trackbot> action-459 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Coordinate with

   helena about her library software for the github -- due

   2016-10-31 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [14]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/459

 

     [14] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/459

 

   kaz: Helena is checking the W3C Software License

 

   helena: looking at it

   ... don't think would be problematic

   ... the library is produced by me

 

   ddahl: if Helena is OK with the W3C Software License, need to

   put the license notation on the codes?

 

   helena: yes, can put it within the codes and web pages

   ... JS, PHP scripts

   ... would be useful for people

 

   ddahl: would be great

 

   helena: will check the code/header, etc.

 

   <ddahl> action-460

 

   <trackbot> action-460 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Update the

   wot/mmi relationship diagram -- due 2016-11-14 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [15]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/460

 

     [15] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/460

 

   ->

   [16]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/kaz/images/MMI-as-UI-for-WoT.pn

   g updated diagram

 

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/kaz/images/MMI-as-UI-for-WoT.png

 

   kaz: added 3 updates

   ... resource manager/resource description

   ... rice cooker/air conditioner as examples of Things

   ... two arrows: from MMI to WoT (WoT as a MC from MMI's

   viewpoint) and fromWoT to MMI (MMI as a Servient from WoT

   viewpoint)

 

   ddahl: question about the protocol between MMI and WoT

 

   <ddahl> debbie: can we annotate the diagram in Webex?

 

   kaz: shares the image

 

   ddahl: where Helena's vocabulary should go?

   ... similar to the TD?

 

   helena: Resource Manager just has index

 

   ddahl: it would be interesting to put the data component

   ... thought we had discussion the data component is part of the

   IM

 

   helena: need its own box

 

   kaz: what would we need to handle within the MMI world?

 

   helena: high-level information

   ... name, address, port, etc.

   ... you can request detailed information

 

   ddahl: MMI side could inquiry the TD about the detail

   ... max/min temperature

 

   helena: information of unit is important

 

   ddahl: right. 70F is nice temperature (though 70C is terrible)

   ... btw, regarding EMMA

   ... wonder what that means

   ... do we need EMMA there in this diagram?

   ... EMMA is transfered between IM and MC

 

   kaz: right

 

   ddahl: so EMMA is too low level for this diagram

 

   kaz: right

   ... we should remove EMMA from this diagram itself

   ... on the other hand, I've started to think that everything

   should be rather described as a service regardless of if it's a

   concrete device or software

 

   ddahl: like that idea

 

   helena: a service is a modality here

 

   kaz: will update this diagram based on today's discussion

 

   ddahl: ok

 

Use Case GitHub

 

   ddahl: need to accept Dirk's pull request

 

   kaz: will skim his proposal and merge it

 

   ddahl: ok

   ... there is no conflict

 

Charter

 

   ddahl: the current Charter ends at the end of this year

   ... can we publish documents now?

 

   kaz: yes

   ... there will be pub moratorium in December, though

 

   [17]Publication moratoria for the second harl of 2016

   (Member-only)

 

     [17] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016AprJun/0004.html

 

   ddahl: we have automatic publication system now

   ... so we can publish an ordinary draft/note using the auto pub

   system

 

   kaz: right

 

   ddahl: other than the library, we need to update the draft as

   well

   ... need to get the WG approval

 

   kaz: do we still want to change the title/shortname for the

   note?

   ... if we don't change title or shortname, we can simply add

   content, e.g., the vocabulary

 

   -> [18]https://www.w3.org/TR/mmi-mc-discovery/ Discovery WD

 

     [18] https://www.w3.org/TR/mmi-mc-discovery/

 

   kaz: we want to change the title and make it "Discovery &

   Registration" instead of "Registration & Discovery". right?

 

   ddahl: the updated WD's title is "Discovery & Registration of

   Multimodal Modality Components: State Handling"

   ... the shortname should be ok if we add vocabulary section

 

   kaz: yes

 

   ddahl: how about "Discovery and Registration of Modality

   Components"?

 

   kaz: +1

 

   <helena> +1

 

   ddahl: talk with PLH about the title change

 

   kaz: will do

 

   <scribe> ACTION: kaz to talk with plh about the change of the

   title for the discovery WD [recorded in

   [19]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html#action

   01]

 

     [19] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html#action01]

 

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-461 - Talk with plh about the change

   of the title for the discovery wd [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due

   2016-11-21].

 

   [ adjourned ]

 

Summary of Action Items

 

   [NEW] ACTION: kaz to talk with plh about the change of the

   title for the discovery WD [recorded in

   [20]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html#action

   01]

 

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html#action01

 

Summary of Resolutions

 

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