[all] MMI minutes December 12, 2016

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  [1]W3C

 

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          Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference

                              12 Dec 2016

 

   See also: [2]IRC log

 

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-multimodal-irc

 

Attendees

 

   Present

          Debbie, Kaz

 

   Regrets

          helena

 

   Chair

          Debbie

 

   Scribe

          kaz

 

Contents

 

     * [3]Topics

         1. [4]actions

         2. [5]charter

         3. [6]Use cases

     * [7]Summary of Action Items

     * [8]Summary of Resolutions

     __________________________________________________________

 

   <scribe> scribenick: kaz

 

actions

 

   <ddahl> actions

   [9]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open

 

      [9] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open

 

   <ddahl> action 454?

 

   <ddahl> action-454?

 

   <trackbot> action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into

   text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN

 

   ddahl: I'm behind...

 

   <trackbot>

   [10]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454

 

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454

 

   action-457?

 

   <trackbot> action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a

   strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in

   a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [11]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457

 

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457

 

   ->

   [12]https://github.com/w3c/mmi/blob/gh-pages/usecases/images/dr

   awing.svg basic template of entity relationship

 

     [12]
https://github.com/w3c/mmi/blob/gh-pages/usecases/images/drawing.svg

 

   kaz: we can use this as the template for entity relationship

 

   dahl: wondering about the interaction between the visitor and

   the exhibit

 

   kaz: possibly touch the exhibit

 

   dahl: also ask questions and it starts talking

 

   <ddahl> labels for arcs might be "touch" or "information about

   exhibit"?

 

   kaz: good question

   ... could include both properties and actions

 

   ddahl: the visitor could be a student

   ... and can add labels for arcs

 

   <ddahl> should the use cases provide labels for the arcs?

 

   kaz: yes

 

   <ddahl> we aren't too interested in the interactions between

   people

 

   kaz: and Entity 2 could be an official at the reception desk

 

   (change the order later)

 

   scribe: so Entity 2 should be a guide terminal device or kiosk

 

   ddahl: ok

   ... and each use case should have this kind of diagram?

 

   kaz: yes

   ... I'll add this image to the Overview.html

   ... and all the assigned use case editors should add this kind

   of diagrams to his/her use cases

 

   action-458?

 

   <trackbot> action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person

   our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile

   our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [13]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458

 

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458

 

   kaz: Helena did add a subdirectory

 

   ddahl: would be better to have some description on the tool

 

   <ddahl> close action-462

 

   <trackbot> Closed action-462.

 

   -> [14]https://github.com/w3c/mmi/tree/gh-pages/lib Helena's

   tools

 

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/mmi/tree/gh-pages/lib

 

   action-463?

 

   <trackbot> action-463 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Talk with

   johannes about a good time for an mmi/wot call, possibly during

   scripting time slot -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [15]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463

 

     [15] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463

 

   kaz: we've just done that

 

   <ddahl> close action-463

 

   <trackbot> Closed action-463.

 

   kaz: and the conclusion from the WoT Scripting call today was

   bringing this to the WoT IG main call

   ... possibly on Wednesday, Dec. 14

 

   ddahl: can send a link to the list

   ... other than the MMI Architecture spec, what would be good to

   be sent?

 

   kaz: the MMI Interoperability Test Note

 

   ddahl: and your diagram?

 

   kaz: ok

 

   ddahl: and my demo

 

   kaz: and maybe Dirk also might want to send his demo and/or

   paper

 

   ddahl: good idea

 

   <ddahl> action-464?

 

   <trackbot> action-464 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Write more about

   uc-7 -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [16]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464

 

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464

 

   kaz: not yet

 

charter

 

   kaz: what should be the deliverables for the next period

   ... given the discussion with the WoT IG, maybe it would make

   sense to have a best practice doc or a guideline on bridging

   WoT and MMI

   ... and how should we handle EMMA 2.0 and MMI MC

   Discovery/Registration?

 

   ddahl: the biggest thing for EMMA 2.0 is that it's a JSON

   version

   ... we sort of promised we would do that

   ... and we need Helena for Discovery/Registration discussion

   ... have not reviewed Dirk's comment yet

 

   kaz: shall we skim that?

 

   ddahl: we can look at that

 

   ->

   [17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov

   /0003.html Dirk's comments

 

     [17]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0003.html

 

   ddahl: the comments on abstract, status, etc., are editorial

 

   ->

   [18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov

   /0005.html Dirk's comments on section 4

 

     [18]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0005.html

 

   kaz: the question on "MMI framework vs MMI Architecture" is

   interesting

 

   ddahl: we don't want to make the framework a standard

   ... all the comments look nice

   ... asking for good clarifications

 

   kaz: we should talk with Dirk and Helena about this in detail

   during the next call

 

   ddahl: ok

 

Use cases

 

   -> [19]https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html Use

   Case doc

 

     [19] https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html

 

   kaz: should we add the relationship diagram to all the use

   cases before publishing?

 

   ddahl: don't think so

   ... maybe we could remove "museum" specific points from the

   template and make it completely diagram

 

   kaz: +1

   ... and we should change the diagram template as well

   ... e.g., from concrete value to "property 1", etc.

 

   ddahl: yes

   ... and for the UC-7, the concrete entity might be a rice

   cooker and an air conditioner

 

   kaz: right

 

   ddahl: and maybe there is a home portal

 

   <ddahl> the user, vendor

 

   kaz: so Things and Stakeholders

 

   ddahl: child vs adult is important to distinguish who can deal

   with the device

 

   kaz: yes

   ... we might need some kind of authentication, e.g., based on

   age

 

   ddahl: yes

   ... if there is an instanciated version of the template, e.g.,

   for the appliance use case, it would be useful for people

 

   kaz: +1

 

   ddahl: which tool to use? would Inkscape be OK?

   ... SVG is great but if it's difficult for somebody to generate

  SVG, an image file would be also OK

 

   <ddahl> yEd is a good editing tool that can export SVG

 

   kaz: can try it if there is a Linux version

 

   (and there is a Linux version :)

 

   [ adjourned ]

 

Summary of Action Items

 

Summary of Resolutions

 

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