Re: Opinions wants: deprecate maction from MathML 4 (full) spec?

FYI: I checked MathJaX and see they seem to support several action types
including highlighting, selection, and tooltips.

    Neil


On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 3:10 PM Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Neil, all,
>
> A successful <maction> would have probably needed a level of
> specificity similar to HTML's <form>, and a similar level of adopter
> interest...
>
> I suspect using the available "class" and "data-*" attributes together
> with JavaScript+CSS over MathML will encourage more mainstream web
> developers to create MathML-based web apps. And deprecating <maction>
> clearly signals that - so I'd be in favor.
>
> The potential damage to accessibility can now also be mitigated with
> strategic use of "intent" attributes.
>
> Greetings,
> Deyan
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 4:09 PM Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> At our last meeting, we addressed issue 501
>> <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/501>: making actiontype optional
>> matching core. We agreed to move forward on that.
>>
>> Note: maction in core is only supported to the extent that if grabs the
>> first child and displays it.
>>
>> Actions have much more powerful alternatives via javascript in browsers.
>> With no predefined actions, the question naturally becomes "what's the
>> point of maction?". Because of this, the Math WG is soliciting opinions as
>> to whether it should be deprecated in the MathML 4 Full Spec or should be
>> kept.
>>
>> If you feel strongly about keeping or removing <maction> please reply
>> with your rationale.
>>
>>