Minutes: MathML Core meeting 26 Sept, 2022

 Attendees

   - Brian Kardell
   - David Carlisle
   - Neil Soiffer
   - Bruce Miller
   - Bert Bos
   - Deyan Ginev
   - Murray Sargent

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Regrets
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-agenda-items>Agenda
Items
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-brief-progress-updates-plans->Brief
progress updates/plans?

Intent-to-ship status

   - Probably going to ship in Chromium 109 when printing is ready (stable
   targeted for Jan 10)
   - Fred landed a PR explaining "lays out like mrow"

DC: still have "intent" wanting to go in

BK: I'm ok with having it go in
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-css-display>CSS
display

BK: the integration with CSS went with a simple "magic" display: math.
Someone suggested that it should have a display value for each mathml
element. That person has since left mozilla but the suggestion remains. It
is not a blocker but something to think about.

BK: We can always make the change later.

   - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5385
   - https://github.com/w3c/mathml-core/issues/105
   - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5866#issuecomment-1159533365

NS: maybe think about making it level 2
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-interop-2023>Interop
2023

BK: this is where all the browser makers have interoperability problems and
there is a focus on fixing them.

BK: in the past there have been a mechinism where people suggest areas to
work on, there is complicated internal process for choosing among them.

BK: it has been very successfull in eliminating differences in the areas
being worked on.

BK: I've submitted a proposal for embedded content (SVG and MathML).
https://github.com/web-platform-tests/interop/issues/147

BK: feel free to make a comment.

NS: e.g., polyfills have a problem in Firefox because CSS on mathml isn't
supported

BK: find the specific tests and link them.
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-let-39-s-collect-a-vote-to-move-to-cr->Let's
collect a vote to move to CR.

NS: I'll move the open issue from #167 to a new issue and then David can
close the issue after updating the spec so fallback is infix, postfix,
prefix

BK: Proposal: we agree that once #157 is merged and #167 is fixed, we move
to CR.

NS: We have consensus to move to CR

BB: Need to get horizontal review

NS: I'll send out to the appropriate groups once the fixes are in.
<https://sandbox.cryptpad.info/code/inner.html?ver=5.1.0-04#cp-md-0-early-scoping-for-l2->Early
scoping for L2?

BK: I added this because of the display issue above.

BK: Make sure everything that is level 2 is probably labelled as level 2.

BB: In CSS, the levels include all of the previous drafts. Often they start
with something that says "the old stuff goes here" so it is obvious what is
new.

BK: Let's just make sure the level 2 label is complete and at the next
meeting or two let's start talking about those issues.