Re: MathML Core authoring tools?

Hi Lorenzo,

Great to hear that LyX has a MathML generator, I wasn't aware of that. I
see that it's written in C++ and covers a lot of territory. Cool!
Including LyX in the W3C page is exactly what we would want to do,
especially if you're planning a MathML Core update.

As to "transition guides":
1. I think it will be very useful if we could prepare a large "vanilla"
LaTeX document full of equations, which exercises all of MathML Core. That
way any latex-based generator can have a baseline for browser testing.
2. It may also be useful to have an itemized list of the small changes
(such as <mo> no longer allowing the "accent" attribute), which developers
could use as a "checklist" while refactoring their code.

Maybe some of these kinds of resources already exist? I could help with
compiling the LaTeX doc if need be, but the itemized list will likely
require the time of the usual MathML Core suspects.

Greetings,
Deyan


On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 11:45 AM Lorenzo Bertini <lorenzobertini97@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Il 06/12/22 09:04, Frédéric WANG ha scritto:
> > Hello,
> >
> > For historical reasons, many MathML generators are based on MathML 3, or
> > even the subset supported by Firefox. Now that browsers have been moving
> > to MathML Core, it would be good to have a list of tools that have been
> > updated to be more aligned with MathML Core (for some definition of
> > "aligned") and be recommended for users.
> >
> > We already have https://www.w3.org/wiki/Math_Tools but I'm not sure
> it's
> > really up-to-date (even the two links of the Browsers section are broken
> > and the CG's polyfills are not listed...). Perhaps it should be
> > refreshed and reorganized so users targeting native browser support can
> > more easily find relevant tools?
> >
> > To start the discussion:
> >
> > - We can probably remove "Mozilla Gecko/Firefox" and "Apple WebKit" from
> > the list, since all the three main engines are going to support MathML
> > Core.
> > - I'm still maintaining TeXZilla and it was updated in 2019 during the
> > MathML Core simplification (although it may probably still generate
> > non-MathML Core features in some rare cases).
> >
> > This idea originated from the MDN discussions at
> > https://github.com/mdn/content/pull/22640.
> >
>
> I highly suggest adding LyX (https://www.lyx.org/) to the list. It is an
> actively maintained document processor that can output in a variety of
> formats, including HTML/Docbook/Epub with MathML math. I've been
> authoring MathML ebooks for the longest time with it.
>
> Also, I think the "others" category should be renamed to "Document
> processors".
>
> On a side note, I sometimes send patches for LyX about MathML output.
> What would I need to do to make it MathML core compliant?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Lorenzo
>
>