Minutes: MathML intent meeting, 9 Aug

 Attendees:

   - David Carlisle
   - Sam Dooley
   - Brian Kardell
   - David Farmer
   - Deyan Ginev
   - Patrick Ion
   - Mohannad Khasawneh
   - Paul Libbrecht
   - Louis Maher
   - Bruce Miller
   - Daniel O'Mahony
   - Murray Sargent
   - Neil Soiffer
   - Daniel O'Mahony
   - Steve Noble
   - Moritz Schubotz
   - Cary Supalo
   - Laurence Zaysser

Regrets:

   - Charles LaPierre

Announcements/updates

We introduced ourselves to the new members Mohannad Khasawneh and Daniel
O'Mahony.

NS: will schedule a TPAC meeting and hope that ARIA shows up.
Gap Analysis Doc

The document is at (
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pzsf2dqTkbYXFmoKCLzvtrNERNmtF2MHX1WtugB3PfA/edit#heading=h.k21427jotzf1
).

SD: Discussed how to attach symbols that are not part of the MathML
standard to the intent mathML syntax.

NS: We should not spend too much time on discussing how to bring in new
symbols. Non-content MathML experts won't care about that level of detail.

DG: "Point" is not in the MathML standard. If we use it, we will have to
explain it. He wants to not use point as an example.

BM: We can define point with a footnote saying that we will need a CD
(content dictionary) to discuss it.

SD: Used point to show how parallel markup can disambiguate something.

SD: wants to illustrate the use of parallel MathML to clarify math
expressions. He wants to use csymbol to explain what a "point" is so that
"point" can be used in his examples.

NS: We also use "line segments" and "subscripted variables" as examples of
how things can be disambiguated.

From Moritz Schubotz to Everyone: suggest point

DG: You must discuss CDs if you discuss content MathML.

DG: We should expand our content MathML discussion.

NS: Maybe put in two sentences describing alternative ways to work with
content MathML.

BM: There are alternative ways to specify symbols.

DG: is OK with using "point" with "csymbol" in our examples.

MOS: wants more ARIA discussion. We should describe csymbol there.

NS: Discussed problems with "ARIA label" not being a good accessibility
solution. The ARIA discussion may need improvement.

*ACTION* Neil will work on the ARIA discussion. DG: may also work on this.

BM: There is an example from MathCounts. There is good data in that
example. He wants the discussion shortened.

NS: suggests using highlighting to emphasize the MathCounts example's vital
parts.

LZ: MathML should be natively accessible. She is concerned about the
increased complexity that the intent property would introduce. She does not
think that authors would use it because of its complexity.

LZ: MathML should offer minimal accessibility without enhancements.

DG: In the MathCounts example, most of the example is natively accessible.
Only a few "pain points" will need enhancement.

*ACTION* NS: will finish editing most of the document. The ARIA section
will especially need attention.

*ACTION* DG, SD, and MOS will work on the parallel section.