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Re: Swiss AMOS - 737-800 MPD upload in XML format - File Transfer Failed Error.

From: Paul Libbrecht <paul@hoplahup.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:36:39 +0200
Cc: "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>
Message-Id: <4710AEAC-54CA-4FE5-8E5A-97BBC52F67F2@hoplahup.net>
To: Laurie Bennie <LaurieBennie@flysaa.com>
Sorry Laurie,

I copied the URL wrong in my mail:
	http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2008/02/08/w3c_s_excessive_dtd_traffic/
is the blog entry that I mentioned.

> Thank you for your response and yes I do understand that we are hitting a protection measure but how do I go about obtaining the license if required or access to be able to continue my process to load the Boeing MPD data into our system for processing?

There is no way to obtain a license from w3c that I know of, in order to avoid these pulls.

As indicated in the blog entries, parsers should be caching properly and if not, you might be using a proxy or trying to configure the parser to avoid loading such widespread DTDs. The usage of XML catalogs has been designed for this. 

At worst, you could also use http proxies that would do the caching for you. All command-line told that manipulate XML that I know of accept being configured for proxies.

I kind of understand that one single download per minute is likely to be completely worry free.
Considering these documents change less than once in 10 years, I think it is worth it.

paul


>  
>  
> Thank you
> Yours sincerely
> Laurie Bennie | MANAGER | Governance and Compliance
>  
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> From: Paul Libbrecht [mailto:paul@hoplahup.net] 
> Sent: 20 October 2014 11:47 PM
> To: Laurie Bennie
> Cc: www-math@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Swiss AMOS - 737-800 MPD upload in XML format - File Transfer Failed Error.
>  
> Dear Laurie,
>  
> since you posted on a public list, I allow myself to answer.
>  
> I would suspect you are hitting the protection measures described in this blog entry:
>             http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007/w3centities.ent
> I understand they happen when traditional parsing pipelines crawl the whole DTD stacks even though most of the entries are already downloaded quite often and/or could be delivered with the software.
>  
> The blog entry gives some hints how to solve the issues.
> Hope it helps.
>  
> paul
>  
>  
> On 20 oct. 2014, at 15:25, Laurie Bennie <LaurieBennie@flysaa.com> wrote:
> 
> 
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> Dear David Carlisle,
>  
> Please note the communication between SAA and Boeing below.
>  
> SAA Technical would like to use the Boeing MPD in xml format to upload the data into the AMOS system to be able to produce Task cards.
> We have been battling to upload the files provided via the Boeing onsite representative for the following reasons:
>                 1. SAA Proxy server did not allow the PC to access the link in the code "http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231.html" and we have now allowed this access.
>                 2. The w3.org then returns a "403 error" back to us (as per  below display)and we are unable to continue with the process in AMOS.
>  
> Please could you assist and advise what is still required from SAA side to be allowed to access the MPD in this format?
>  
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>  
> Thank you
> Yours sincerely
> Laurie Bennie | MANAGER | Governance and Compliance
>  
> Mobile: 083 419 1766 | Phone: +2711-978-5088 | Fax: +2711 978-2335 | E-Mail: LaurieBennie@flysaa.com
> Room 223C, Floor 2, Block C, Airways Park, OR Tambo International- Johannesburg- SOUTH AFRICA
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boeing Customer Support [mailto:csd.boecom@boeing.com] 
> Sent: 17 October 2014 05:40 PM
> Subject: RE: Swiss AMOS - 737-800 MPD upload in XML format - File Transfer Failed Error.
>  
> FROM: THE BOEING COMPANY
> TO: South African Airways (SAA)
> [MESSAGE NUMBER:SAA-SAA-14-0058-06B]      Boeing Response
> MESSAGE DATE:  17 Oct 2014 0839 US PACIFIC TIME / 17  Oct 2014 1539 GMT
>  
> The following message is distributed to the following people at SAA Technical Proprietary LTD:
> Christo Miller
>  
> The following message is distributed to the following people at South African Airways:
> Ms. Laurie Bennie
>  
> Field Service Base:  BFSJNB
>  
> Service Category:  Digital Data Support   Model:  737       Series/Product:  XML            ATA: 
>  
> SUBJECT: RE: Swiss AMOS - 737-800 MPD upload in XML format - File Transfer Failed Error.
>  
> REFERENCES:
> /A/ SAA-SAA-14-0058-05C
>  
>  
> DESCRIPTION:
>  
> Dear Jowene,
>  
> We have had the URL made available on our network but am now getting a response back from the server rejecting our request.
> Is there a license that we are meant to have to be able to make use of this MPD Data in XML format?
>  
>  
> Thank you
> Yours sincerely
> Laurie Bennie | MANAGER | Governance and Compliance
>  
> Mobile: 083 419 1766 | Phone: +2711-978-5088 | Fax: +2711 978-2335 | E-Mail: LaurieBennie@flysaa.com Room 223C, Floor 2, Block C, Airways Park, OR Tambo International- Johannesburg- SOUTH AFRICA
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurie Bennie
> Sent: 15 October 2014 08:01 AM
> To: 'Boeing Customer Support'
> Cc: I-Memoli, Tony (tony.memoli@boeing.com); I-Botha, Pieter J (pieter.j.botha@boeing.com); Christo Miller; Viv Reddy
> Subject: RE: Swiss AMOS - 737-800 MPD upload in XML format - File Transfer Failed Error.
>  
> Dear Jowene,
>  
> Thank you for this feedback I have tried the URL and get the message below which I will now have to follow up on:
>  
> Copyright 1998 - 2011 W3C.
>  
>      Use and distribution of this code are permitted under the terms of
>      either of the following two licences:
>  
>      1) W3C Software Notice and License.
>         http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231.html
>  
>  
>      2) The license used for the WHATWG HTML specification,
>         which states, in full:
>             You are granted a license to use, reproduce and create derivative
>             works of this document.
>  
>  
>      Please report any errors to David Carlisle
>      via the public W3C list www-math@w3.org.
>  
>  
>        Public identifier: -//W3C//ENTITIES Combined Set//EN//XML
>        System identifier: http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007/w3centities.ent
>  
>      The public identifier should always be used verbatim.
>      The system identifier may be changed to suit local requirements.
>  
>      Typical invocation:
>  
>        <!ENTITY % w3centities PUBLIC
>          "-//W3C//ENTITIES Combined Set//EN//XML"
>          "http://www....
>  
> RESPONSE AND/OR REQUIRED ACTION :
>  
>  
>  
>  
> RESPONSE:
>  
> Dear Laurie,
>  
> The answer is "no, there is no license you need from Boeing in order to make use of the MPD XML". The access you were giving via MyBoeingFleet is all that is required.
>  
> You may want to talk with the AMOS folks to find out if there is a setting that is not allowing you upload the data.
>  
> Also, have you considered using the Excel data instead of the XML?
>  
> Best regards.
>  
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>  
>  
> Jowene Prouty-Black
> Integrated Data Architecture and Test - Seattle Harium Martin-Morris - Manager
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