From: Frédéric WANG <fred.wang@free.fr>

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:42:55 +0200

Message-ID: <53CEA29F.1080502@free.fr>

To: William F Hammond <hammond@csc.albany.edu>

CC: "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>, latexML project <project-latexml@lysander.jacobs-university.de>, Mozilla Math Developers <dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org>

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:42:55 +0200

Message-ID: <53CEA29F.1080502@free.fr>

To: William F Hammond <hammond@csc.albany.edu>

CC: "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>, latexML project <project-latexml@lysander.jacobs-university.de>, Mozilla Math Developers <dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org>

Le 22/07/2014 08:51, William F Hammond a écrit : > Why should it be necessary to remove support for old fonts just > because new things will be supported? -- Bill I supposed you understood that it is not "just because new things will be supported" ;-) First the Unicode-only constructions in arbitrary fonts will still be supported, what we want to remove is the old font tables for Asana Math, "STIX General" and MathJax. Asana Math and the "STIX Word" set have an OpenType MATH table so can be used with the new code. Additionally, Latin Modern Math is a "modernized implementation of the Computer Modern fonts" (with reshaping and other stuff that are out of my area of expertise, see the papers on the GUST website for details) and so can now replace the "MathJax TeX" fonts (which is just generated via an autotracer, targeted to MathJax's needs and was a temporary solution to replace the old BaKoMa TeX support). So first, nobody should need these old fonts in the long term since you have equivalent OpenType MATH version... why do you want that?? The technical reason why we want to remove support for these old fonts is that they need special handlings which make the stretchy operator code "complicated" (to use an euphemism). Since we want to optimize it in the future, we will need to cleanup the code before refactoring it. Moving to OpenType MATH has actually been the plan for 7 years, but that finally could only be realized recently, thanks to the Ulule crowdfunding... Moreover, from the user's point of view, you will get a much more consistent way to use the various OpenType MATH fonts in WebKit/Gecko. Basically, you now have only one single Math font to deal with and only need to set the font-family on the <math> (and perhaps the companion fonts for the text). All the mathvariant selection, correction of prime size, math layout parameters, stretchy op constructions etc are stored in the font and Gecko&WebKit only need to read what has been specified by the font authors. One can even create his own math fonts with fontforge and they will be immediately supported by Gecko&WebKit without having to hardcode new data. For example, if some Mathematica people read that, they could just make an OpenType MATH version of their fonts and restore the original 15-years old support in Gecko :-) -- Frédéric Wang maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/fredericReceived on Tuesday, 22 July 2014 17:43:20 UTC

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