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Re: [whatwg] The problems with namespaces in text/html

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:10:27 +0200
Message-Id: <17B3B725-F7FF-426A-B0DF-79AFBCCF6F9B@iki.fi>
Cc: www-math@w3.org, Anne van Kesteren <fora@annevankesteren.nl>, WHATWG <whatwg@whatwg.org>
To: Elliotte Harold <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>

On Nov 5, 2006, at 15:54, Elliotte Harold wrote:

> Henri Sivonen wrote:
>> The model in the browsers that matter is the DOM. Unfortunately.  
>> But it is too late to change it. And having even that level of  
>> interop is great.
> But as I keep saying, *it's not just browsers*. There's a lot more  
> happening on the Web than classic desktop browsers. A document  
> posted to the Web is available to all sorts of clients. Some of the  
> most interesting things happen when there's no human in the loop to  
> look at a browser.

If your app does not run scripts from the Web, you are exempt from  
using the DOM as the model.

Quoting the spec:
> User agents with no scripting support
>     Implementations that do not support scripting (or which have
>     their scripting features disabled) are exempt from supporting
>     the events and DOM interfaces mentioned in this specification.
>     For the parts of this specification that are defined in terms
>     of an events model or in terms of the DOM, such user agents
>     must still act as if events and the DOM were supported.

I predict that in practice many non-browser apps will be in violation  
of the last sentence, because their authors will see more value in  
being able to use a streaming API without buffering or in being able  
to decouple the parser from the tree builder than in having  
interoperable error recovery.

Henri Sivonen
Received on Sunday, 5 November 2006 14:10:43 UTC

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