- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 11:39:22 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2024/05/30-i18n-minutes.html
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– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
30 May 2024
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2]
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6d544156-352c-46f2-b6ec-383b4e2462fb/20240530T150000/
[3] https://www.w3.org/2024/05/30-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, atsushi, Bert, JcK, Richard, xfq
Regrets
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Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
atsushi
Contents
1. [4]Agenda Review
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]RADAR Review
6. [9]Pending Issue Review
7. [10]Emphasis skip property
8. [11]String-Meta Consumer PR
9. [12]AOB?
Meeting minutes
Agenda Review
Action Items
<addison> #103
<gb> [13]Action 103 Migrate RADAR project (on aphillips)
[13] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/103
addison: github migration of RADAR
… will prepare by next meeting, and will let you know about
r12a: xfq is trying to investigate
<xfq> [14]https://github.com/users/xfq/projects/2/views/1
[14] https://github.com/users/xfq/projects/2/views/1
xfq: actually did some before
… tried to produce something here
… looks like it's possible, good to try migration and use
<addison> #102
addison: let us talk next meeting
<gb> [15]Action 102 ping alreq group to review our
i18n-activity#1620 (on aphillips) due 2024-05-30
[15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/102
addison: sent email
<addison> [16]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
public-i18n-arabic/2024AprJun/0005.html
[16]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-arabic/2024AprJun/0005.html
<addison> [17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
public-i18n-hebrew/2024AprJun/0000.html
[17]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-hebrew/2024AprJun/0000.html
addison: about direction etc., and email above
<addison> #101
<gb> [18]Action 101 research what if anything to do with
dpub-pagination comments and old DPIG comments (on xfq) due
2024-05-30
[18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/101
<addison> #100
<gb> [19]Action 100 complain to plh about the new IRC tool (on
aphillips) due 2024-05-30
[19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/100
<addison> #99
<gb> [20]Action 99 ping unicode about emphasis skip property
(see our #530) (on aphillips) due 2024-05-28
[20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/99
addison: sent, and will get advice
xfq: about latin lreq, clreq meeting yesterday talked about
… would update document with the same structure as new alreq
documents
… can do later
addison: sent email to Unicode, and how do all want to do
<addison> #98
<gb> [21]Action 98 fix code points examples in
lang-bidi-use-cases (on r12a) due 2024-05-23
[21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/98
addion: got information/advice from them, and check these
<addison> #96
<gb> [22]Action 96 evaluate and where necessary fix
i18n-glossary#76 (on r12a) due 2024-05-02
[22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/96
<addison> #93
<gb> [23]Action 93 create best practices for consumers in
string-meta (on aphillips) due 2024-04-25
[23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/93
addison: more work on this, suggestion welcome
<addison> ```suggestion
<addison> #90
<gb> [24]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
2024-04-18
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90
<addison> #89
<gb> [25]Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on
xfq) due 2024-04-18
[25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89
<addison> #87
<gb> [26]Action 87 write to IETF ADs about RFC9457 with JcK's
assistance (on aphillips) due 2024-04-04
[26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/87
<addison> #79
<gb> [27]Action 79 schedule a follow-up call with WHATNOT in
~April (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
[27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/79
<addison> #78
<gb> [28]Action 78 compare infra to i18n-glossary export list
and report back (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/78
<addison> #43
<gb> [29]Action 43 pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis
for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due
2023-09-18
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/43
<addison> #33
<gb> [30]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
for further review (on aphillips)
[30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33
<addison> #8
<gb> [31]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8
<addison> #7
<gb> [32]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7
<addison> #4
<gb> [33]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) due
27 Jul 2023
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4
Info Share
<r12a> [34]https://w3c.social/@webi18n/112530275028486758
[34] https://w3c.social/@webi18n/112530275028486758
r12a: FPWD of adlam layout document has out today
RADAR Review
<addison> [35]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
addison: no new incoming
… did pointer events lv3 issue
addison: did web translation api
bert: about web trasnlation explainer, did some check, and
filed some
RADAR Review
Pending Issue Review
<addison> [36]w3c/i18n-activity#1853
[36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1853
<gb> [37]Issue 1853 ‘Logical’ values for the ‘touch-action’
property (by bert-github) [s:pointerevents]
[37] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1853
bert: found only one potential issue on pointer events
… about touch-action property
[describe draft review issue]
addison: this spec should work as other CSS specs, on bidi etc.
bert: CSS groups trying to use commonly sheared terminology
like logical one
<xfq> pan-inline, pan-inline-start, pan-inline-end, pan-block,
pan-block-start, pan-block-end
r12a: will take up these possible values and put as comments
<xfq> [38]w3c/pointerevents#272
[38] https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/272
<gb> [39]Issue 272 Add logical dimension values for
touch-action property, since logical is/has shipped (by
jonjohnjohnson) [future]
[39] https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/272
xfq: there is existing issue above
<addison> [40]w3c/pointerevents#272
[40] https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/272
<addison> [41]w3c/pointerevents#496
[41] https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/496
<gb> [42]Pull Request 496 Add logical/abstract values for
`touch-action` (by patrickhlauke) [future]
[42] https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/496
bert: PR is corresponds to existing issue
addison: any objection to make this as needs-resolution?
bert: will file new issue, after rewritting
<addison> [43]w3c/i18n-activity#1854
[43] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1854
<gb> [44]Issue 1854 Internationalization checklist (by w3cbot)
[tracker] [s:device-posture]
[44] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1854
<addison> [45]i18n-activity#1852
[45] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1852
<gb> [46]Issue 1852 [css-text-3][css-text-4] Japanese small
kana and `line-break: normal` (by w3cbot) [pending] [tracker]
[s:css-text] [spec-type-issue] [jlreq]
[46] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1852
addison: added as agenda later
Emphasis skip property
<addison> [47]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
public-i18n-core/2024AprJun/0055.html
[47]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2024AprJun/0055.html
addison: suggested three different approaches
xfq: CJK and mongolian need to consider
… if they want to discuss on different behavior/character
addison: potentially these should be included in cldr
xfq: even for language dependent stuff, some of them can be in
UCD instead of CLDR
String-Meta Consumer PR
<addison> [48]w3c/string-meta#87
[48] https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/87
<gb> [49]Pull Request 87 Create best practices for consumers
(by aphillips)
[49] https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/87
<addison> [50]https://
deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
[50]
https://deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
addison: some work done for this
addison: rewrote some masterd with clear text
addison: 3rd and 4th ones are somehow redundant
r12a: wondering but see some addition
addison: wondring about writing example box with html text
… something like how to isolate string and language metadata
… link to fancy illustration
<r12a> [51]https://www.w3.org/International/questions/
qa-html-dir.en.html#insertedtext
[51]
https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-html-dir.en.html#insertedtext
r12a: here is some description on that front
<r12a> [52]https://www.w3.org/International/articles/
inline-bidi-markup/index.en.html#whattodo
[52]
https://www.w3.org/International/articles/inline-bidi-markup/index.en.html#whattodo
<addison> [53]https://www.w3.org/International/articles/
lang-bidi-use-cases/
[53] https://www.w3.org/International/articles/lang-bidi-use-cases/
<r12a> [54]https://www.w3.org/International/articles/
inline-bidi-markup/bidi_examples.html
[54]
https://www.w3.org/International/articles/inline-bidi-markup/bidi_examples.html
addison: do we have some action for fixing up isolation part?
addison: missing anything else?
AOB?
[silent]
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