- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:57:43 +0800
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https://www.w3.org/2023/11/30-i18n-minutes.html text version: [1]W3C [1] https://www.w3.org/ – DRAFT – Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 30 November 2023 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6d544156-352c-46f2-b6ec-383b4e2462fb/20231130T150000/ [3] https://www.w3.org/2023/11/30-i18n-irc Attendees Present Addison, Atsushi, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard Regrets - Chair Addison Phillips Scribe atsushi Contents 1. [4]Agenda Review 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]RADAR Review 5. [8]review localizable content PR 6. [9]Working with Time and Timezones 7. [10]Localizable Manifests 8. [11]Needs Attention issues for WG review 9. [12]AOB? 10. [13]Using GH Discussions 11. [14]Summary of action items 12. [15]Summary of resolutions Meeting minutes acribe+ Agenda Review Action Items <gb> Found actions in w3c/i18n-actions: #58, #57, #56, #53, #47, #43, #35, #33, #18, #16, #12, #11, #8, #7, #5, #4 <addison> #58 <gb> [16]Action 58 revise localizable-manifests in light of tpac conversation and new explainer (on aphillips) due 2023-11-09 [16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/58 addison: agenda item for today, working on <addison> close #58 <addison> #57\ <gb> Closed [17]action #58 [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/58 <gb> [18]Action 57 add localizable content definition to the glossary (on xfq) due 2023-11-09 [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/57 xfq: raised a PR for this, PR is still open addison: let's review today <addison> close #57 <gb> Closed [19]action #57 [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/57 <addison> #56 <gb> [20]Action 56 check on permissions with w3ctag and follow up with plh on looking for notifications (on xfq) due 2023-11-02 [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/56 <addison> close #56 <gb> Closed [21]action #56 [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/56 <addison> #53 xfq: done for permission at w3ctag <gb> [22]Action 53 come up with a set of information CSS want the i18n group to provide support for generic font families (on frivoal, fantasai) due 2023-11-01 [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/53 <addison> #47 <gb> [23]Action 47 make the CSSWG aware of Warichu (on frivoal) due 2023-10-04 [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/47 <addison> #43 <gb> [24]Action 43 pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due 2023-09-18 [24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/43 addison: 53 and 47 is CSS <addison> #35 <gb> [25]Action 35 make the edits of CSS #5478 (on fantasai) due 2023-08-30 [25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/35 addison: started on 43 but still working, pending <addison> #33 <gb> [26]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips) [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 addison: 33, keep working on closing ones marked as close? … added as agenda item <addison> #18 <gb> [27]Action 18 Have informal explanation sessions about counter style translations with csswg members (on frivoal, fantasai) [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/18 <addison> #16 <gb> [28]Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16 <addison> #12 <gb> [29]Action 12 Upgrade/edit the explainer to address issues raised by google (on aphillips) [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/12 <addison> #11 <gb> [30]Action 11 Triage all css properties to determine which are logical, physical, or na by default (on frivoal) [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/11 addison: 12, working, finish up with cleaning things, keeping alive for a while <addison> #8 <gb> [31]Action 8 Create pr against canvas formatted text (on aphillips) [31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 <addison> #7 <gb> [32]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 <addison> #5 <gb> [33]Action 5 Check into how to list questions at the top of a digest and/or improve lang enablement communications (on r12a) [33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/5 <addison> #4 <gb> [34]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 Info Share <addison> [35]https://www.w3.org/2023/11/29-coga-minutes.html [35] https://www.w3.org/2023/11/29-coga-minutes.html addison: had call yesterday with COGA colleages, minutes above … reasonable start with them r12a: got with them on interesting action items, seeking for another opportunity incl. finding experts for input to there <gb> Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe addision is not a valid user for w3c/i18n-actions? ACTION: addison: follow up with julie rowe on next steps with coga such as a work plan <gb> Created [36]action #59 [36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/59 <r12a> [37]https://w3c.social/@webi18n/111489082413507311 [37] https://w3c.social/@webi18n/111489082413507311 r12a: post on mastdon above, on supporting fonts [r12a described about images and backgrounds] RADAR Review <addison> [38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 addison: nothing here … some in awaiting comment resolution could be marked as completed... review localizable content PR <xfq> [39]w3c/i18n-glossary#57 [39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/57 xfq: PR above xfq: added localizable content entry to glossary <xfq> [40]https:// deploy-preview-57--i18n-glossary.netlify.app/#dfn-localizable-c ontent [40] https://deploy-preview-57--i18n-glossary.netlify.app/#dfn-localizable-content xfq: definition is adopted from localizable text … didnot merged two entries, since both are used for different envoirnment r12a: second 'contents' should be single form? addison: depending on what 'document' is addison: localizable text could be string content or text content xfq: will update text around document Working with Time and Timezones <addison> [41]https://www.w3.org/TR/timezone [41] https://www.w3.org/TR/timezone addison: have a WG note, long standing one on timezone <addison> [42]https://w3c.github.io/timezone/ [42] https://w3c.github.io/timezone/ addison: working for revision on this note addison: couple of things wanted to do, publish WG draft over WG note, for getting comments addison: super happy to get feedback on this document [silent for comment] r12a: is there any used styling in 2.4? addison: historical. just glossary one <r12a> [43]https://www.w3.org/International/articles/ definitions-time/index.en.html [43] https://www.w3.org/International/articles/definitions-time/index.en.html addison: we will want to go through this article r12a: don't want to change, but perform checking Localizable Manifests <addison> [44]https:// deploy-preview-16--localizable-manifests.netlify.app/ [44] https://deploy-preview-16--localizable-manifests.netlify.app/ addison: deploy preview as above … some material should go to another document, but not yet addison: both miniapp and manifest are active, and we need to update /TR/ one … number of addition as 2.1 … section 3 is new, indicating language and direction addison: some part could live in string-meta, but need to be in specific document alos xfq: some text are mentioned as in string-meta, but @@@@ addison: merge this and publish to /TR/? <xfq> [45]https://github.com/w3c/localizable-manifests/pull/ 16#discussion_r1395147047 [45] https://github.com/w3c/localizable-manifests/pull/16#discussion_r1395147047 xfq: +1 to merge … added a PR for definitions addison: all in glossary one Needs Attention issues for WG review <addison> [46]i18n-activity#1763 [46] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1763 <gb> [47]Issue 1763 Make computation of directionality account for Shadow DOM. (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [s:html] [needs-attention] [i:bidi-text] [alreq] [hlreq] [t:bidi_markup] [47] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1763 addison: issues marked as close? but asking for review around addison: 1763, has middle sized thread with implementation issues r12a: to consult with fantasai? <addison> [48]i18n-activity#1361 [48] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1361 <gb> [49]Issue 1361 input-purpose `language` should reference BCP47 (by w3cbot) [close?] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [s:adapt] [t:lang_values] [49] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1361 addison: older issue related to CR or something … question is whether something needs to be performed? addison: associated to long thread in [50]whatwg/html#6519 [50] https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6519 <gb> [51]Issue 6519 [not found] [51] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/6519 <gb> [52]Issue 6519 [not found] [52] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/6519 <gb> [53]Issue 6519 4.10.18.7 Autofill & the language value (by johnfoliot) [i18n-tracker] [53] https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6519 <addison> [54]i18n-activity#1006 [54] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1006 <gb> [55]Issue 1006 Informal spellings in specifications (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [needs-attention] [55] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1006 addison: 1006, CSS general purpose one in spellings … just to look into from translations point of view xfq: will take this … English usage in CSS specs RESOLUTION: We consider informal spellings to be typos to be fixed when found and avoided if possible addison: or maybe more general usage r12a: this is CSS resolution, but not of us … sounds good to me <addison> [56]i18n-activity#404 [56] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/404 <gb> [57]Issue 404 Should generalYear (etc.) be gregorianYear (etc.)? (by aphillips) [close?] [s:owl-time] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [t:loc_time] [57] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/404 addison: 404 is old one, on naming … if they use general, many other calendars exist … it seems they did not consider my comment <addison> [58]sdw#888 [58] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/888 <gb> [59]CLOSED Issue 888 should generalYear (etc) be gregorianYear (etc)? (by aphillips) [i18n-needs-resolution] [time] [59] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/888 <r12a> +1 to close from me +1 to close, looking at spec text... xfq: from the last comment, it seems they support only gregorian, but not others addison: they tended to support others, but not included yet xfq: spec text says, not limited to number used for gregorian <xfq> +1 to close addison: moving on? <addison> [60]i18n-activity#370 [60] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/370 <gb> [61]Issue 370 Standardized way to add indications of text direction (by r12a) [close?] [s:shacl] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [t:lang_declaration] [61] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/370 addison: this is about standalization of text direction in data-shapes … quite old as 2017 <addison> close [62]i18n-activity#370 [62] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/370 <gb> Cannot close issue #370. Forbidden. r12a: I think we've discussed with them whether this is ok or not <addison> [63]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ public-i18n-core/2023OctDec/0075.html [63] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2023OctDec/0075.html addison: item in above email, comment in next call AOB? Using GH Discussions r12a: kida-san is interested in Discussions feature … discussions in thread, could be interested for us also … can have comments, and comments to a comment … could be useful for jlreq-d discussions … one issue is notification, and xfq and I are talking with Dom for notification email <xfq> [64]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq-d/discussions [64] https://github.com/w3c/jlreq-d/discussions addison: in message format group, we are using issue and discussion, also … had some success in past, but tend not to use recently r12a: having some wiki pages, but cannot have comments there xfq: will talk with Dom ACTION: xfq: follow up with dom about github discussion notifications <gb> Created [65]action #60 [65] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/60 r12a: any info for upward arrow? xfq: there are also thumb-up button etc. <xfq> [66]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq-d/discussions [66] https://github.com/w3c/jlreq-d/discussions addison: will be shown as order with clicking 'top' Summary of action items 1. [67]addison: follow up with julie rowe on next steps with coga such as a work plan 2. [68]xfq: follow up with dom about github discussion notifications Summary of resolutions 1. [69]We consider informal spellings to be typos to be fixed when found and avoided if possible
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