[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2021-04-01

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– DRAFT –
            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

01 April 2021

    [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

       [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Mar/0023.html
       [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/04/01-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           addison, Atsushi, Bert, David, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard

    Regrets
           -

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

     1. [4]Agenda Review
     2. [5]Action Items
     3. [6]Info Share
     4. [7]RADAR Review
     5. [8]no new review comment on css-cascade-4/5 but still
        former ones applicable
     6. [9]geolocation
     7. [10]String-meta “plain strings”
     8. [11]AOB?
     9. [12]Summary of action items

Meeting minutes

    trackbot, prepare teleconference

   Agenda Review

   Action Items

    [13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-1012?

    <trackbot> [14]action-1012: Fuqiao Xue to Reopen geolocation 50
    and add comment from working group -- due 2021-04-01 -- OPEN

      [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1012

    close action-1012

    <trackbot> Closed action-1012.

   Info Share

    jck: looked into if ietf has written definition of protocol
    elements; answer is no
    … "string or identifier that is embeded in the protocol and not
    expected to be seen by human beings except in debugging"

    [15]http://aphillips.github.io/
    charmod-norm/#def_syntactic_content

      [15] http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#def_syntactic_content

    richard: been talking about numbers in bidi, like isbn
    … actually very complicated; depends on the language and the
    data
    … e.g. arabic vs. persian for a range
    … a hyphen differnt from period

    (addison notes ALM)

    richard: raised issue on font text issue from conversation with
    koji

    <xfq> [16]https://github.com/w3c/font-text-cg/issues/53

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/font-text-cg/issues/53

    richard: he's trying to figure out how to make chrome segment
    indic
    … conjuncts common in e.g. deva
    … letter spacing or drop cap
    … proposed something radical; better not to stick with grapheme
    clusters
    … but to take whole cluster as a unit in certain scripts
    … if you have a visible virama use grapheme cluster
    … less trouble to treat as single unit

   RADAR Review

    [17]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

    [18]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
    issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Apayment-request

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:payment-request

    <atsushi> - re-ask this?: [19]https://github.com/w3c/
    csswg-drafts/issues/5637

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5637

    <atsushi> - this also applies, but in the same condition:
    [20]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5570

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5570

    park 5570 for discussion next week

   no new review comment on css-cascade-4/5 but still former ones
   applicable

   geolocation

    <xfq> [21]https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-api/issues/50

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-api/issues/50

    xfq: discussed before, it's the error message for position
    error
    … it's for developers to debug but not for end users
    … don't want to remove and don't feel incentive to add lang/dir
    … just added a note to say "not intended for end users"

    richard: meant for developers, which means that they have to
    speak english

    addison: or chinese if that's how they run their server

    [22]https://w3c.github.io/
    geolocation-api/#position_error_interface

      [22] https://w3c.github.io/geolocation-api/#position_error_interface

    Action: addison: comment on geolocation 50 about on going
    discussion of i18n on this topic

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-1013 - Comment on geolocation 50
    about on going discussion of i18n on this topic [on Addison
    Phillips - due 2021-04-08].

   String-meta “plain strings”

    unnatural language strings

   AOB?

    richard: remind xfq+atsushi to look at gap analysis publishing
    process

Summary of action items

     1. [23]addison: comment on geolocation 50 about on going
        discussion of i18n on this topic