- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 16:53:45 +0100
- To: www-international@w3.org
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https://www.w3.org/2020/09/03-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
03 Sep 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Aug/0036.html
Attendees
Present
addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi, JcK, fsasaki, Bert
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Fwd: Tentative->Confirmed TPAC meetings this week
6. [9]TPAC planning
7. [10]CSS issue about language and quotes
8. [11]ltr/rtl/auto definition for manifest spec
9. [12]AOB?
* [13]Summary of Action Items
* [14]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
Agenda and Minutes
Action Items
[15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-941?
<trackbot> action-941 -- Addison Phillips to Notify screen wake
lock of review complete with no issues -- due 2020-08-20 --
OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/941
[16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/941
close action-941
<trackbot> Closed action-941.
action-944?
<trackbot> action-944 -- Richard Ishida to Set up ltli for
echidna -- due 2020-08-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/944
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/944
close action-944
<trackbot> Closed action-944.
action-946?
<trackbot> action-946 -- Richard Ishida to Create definition of
'ltr'/'rtl'/'auto' that can be referenced by other
specifications in string-meta -- due 2020-09-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/946
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/946
<xfq_> [19]https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/52
[19] https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/52
richard: PR for string-meta, please to review
action-948?
<trackbot> action-948 -- Addison Phillips to Submit issue 953
to web-xr with appropriate rewording based on telecon -- due
2020-09-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/948
[20] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/948
close action-948
<trackbot> Closed action-948.
action-950?
<trackbot> action-950 -- Felix Sasaki to Submit comments on
cognitive disabilities doc -- due 2020-09-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/950
[21] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/950
close action-950
<trackbot> Closed action-950.
richard: you weren't able to put the labels on them?
<xfq>
[22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is
%3Aopen+label%3As%3Acoga-usable
[22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:coga-usable
Info Share
<r12a> [23]https://r12a.github.io/scripts/samples/
[23] https://r12a.github.io/scripts/samples/
richard: there is also an app called "samples" ^^
... with examples of various scripts
jck: this is similar to omniglot
richard: actually took some samples from there, the UDHR text.
I typed in myself
xfq: difference from phrases page?
richard: this contains many more samples, but the phrases page
contains additional phrases, such as 'W3C Internationalization
Activity'
RADAR Review
[24]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
<xfq> [25]https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/issues/1121
[25] https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/issues/1121
<xfq>
[26]https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/pull/1122/files
[26] https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/pull/1122/files
[27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/953
[27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/953
close?
close
<xfq> [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/129
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/129
<xfq> [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/114
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/114
<xfq> [30]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/248
[30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/248
<r12a> [31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/114
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/114
<scribe> ACTION: addison: close old webshare request, link from
the new one, and clean up radar
<trackbot> Created ACTION-951 - Close old webshare request,
link from the new one, and clean up radar [on Addison Phillips
- due 2020-09-10].
Fwd: Tentative->Confirmed TPAC meetings this week
[32]https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/GroupMeetings
[32] https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/GroupMeetings
<r12a>
[33]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020S
ep/0000.html
[33] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Sep/0000.html
[34]https://www.w3.org/wiki/I18N_2020_TPAC
[34] https://www.w3.org/wiki/I18N_2020_TPAC
<scribe> ACTION: addison: send confirmation of our TPAC
meetings
<trackbot> Created ACTION-952 - Send confirmation of our tpac
meetings [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-09-10].
TPAC planning
[35]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020A
ug/0035.html
[35] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Aug/0035.html
<scribe> ACTION: addison: reply to CSS to schedule TPAC joint
meeting including a plea for topics in advance
<trackbot> Created ACTION-953 - Reply to css to schedule tpac
joint meeting including a plea for topics in advance [on
Addison Phillips - due 2020-09-10].
agenda for next week to review html issues
CSS issue about language and quotes
<r12a>
[36]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020A
ug/0034.html
[36] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Aug/0034.html
richard: here's the email
... was asking HTML to solve a problem for a while
... the language used to select the quote marks was that of the
quote rather than the surrounding text
... events have overtaken it
... CSS has provided 'auto'
... browsers should manage selection of quotes themselves based
on language
... and i asked them to include a requirement to use language
of the text outside the quote
... the WHATWG think now they don't need to specify any more
... so they plan to remove the whole rendering section
... with all the lists from CLDR, etc.
addison: but then we need to shift to CSS.....?
richard: there is an issue that I raised
<r12a> [37]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5478
[37] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5478
richard: include a note to show how content authors could do
addison: needs resolution?
needs resolution
RESOLUTION: move CSS issue 5478 to needs resolution
ltr/rtl/auto definition for manifest spec
[38]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020S
ep/0001.html
[38] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Sep/0001.html
[39]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020S
ep/0002.html
[39] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Sep/0002.html
richard: talked about this before for Marcos
... he pointed to wrong part of bidi
... so trying to fix that
... maybe coming up with text closer to what is wanted for
string-meta
<xfq> [40]https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#P2
[40] https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#P2
<xfq> [41]https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#HL1
[41] https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#HL1
<r12a> [42]http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/tr9-11.html#P1
[42] http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/tr9-11.html#P1
[43]https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/#The_Paragraph_Level
[43] https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/#The_Paragraph_Level
the user agent must *set the base direction* [string-meta]
using the dir attribute
<scribe> ACTION: richard: reply to marcos about manifest bidi
text per teleconference discussion
<trackbot> Created ACTION-954 - Reply to marcos about manifest
bidi text per teleconference discussion [on Richard Ishida -
due 2020-09-10].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: close old webshare request, link from
the new one, and clean up radar
[NEW] ACTION: addison: reply to CSS to schedule TPAC joint
meeting including a plea for topics in advance
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send confirmation of our TPAC meetings
[NEW] ACTION: richard: reply to marcos about manifest bidi text
per teleconference discussion
Summary of Resolutions
1. [44]move CSS issue 5478 to needs resolution
[End of minutes]
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