- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:12:52 +0000
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
26 Mar 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Mar/0010.html
Attendees
Present
addison, Fuqiao, atsushi, richard, Bert, fsasaki, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]rules for simple placement of ruby
6. [9]Issues Resolution
* [10]Summary of Action Items
* [11]Summary of Resolutions
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trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
<scribe> scribenick: addison
Agenda and Minutes
<JcK> WebEx has been badly overloaded this week, and I'm seeing
symptoms -- been waiting several minutes for it to actually
start
<JcK> What means "phone"? :-( Will give it another minute, then
try that.
Action Items
[12]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[12] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-871?
<trackbot> action-871 -- Addison Phillips to Ask css why they
didn't use our process to request a pre-cr review -- due
2020-03-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/871
[13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/871
close action-871
<trackbot> Closed action-871.
actino-873?
action-873?
<trackbot> action-873 -- Addison Phillips to Create a pr on
string-search pointing to find-text issues and the need to
resolve or comment on issues and requirements -- due 2020-03-26
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/873
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/873
close action-873
<trackbot> Closed action-873.
[15]https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/7
[15] https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/7
[16]https://raw.githack.com/aphillips/string-search/gh-pages/in
dex.html
[16] https://raw.githack.com/aphillips/string-search/gh-pages/index.html
action-874?
<trackbot> action-874 -- Fuqiao Xue to Ask after the status of
dpub's css-priorities doc in reference to our issue 195 -- due
2020-03-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/874
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/874
xfq: thought this doc should be closed; work should be taken up
by new CGs
close action-874
<trackbot> Closed action-874.
[18]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/195
[18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/195
<scribe> ACTION: xfq: refile issue 195 against the new
community group after CG is created (depends on epub3 charter)
<trackbot> Created ACTION-878 - Refile issue 195 against the
new community group after cg is created (depends on epub3
charter) [on Fuqiao Xue - due 2020-04-02].
action-875?
<trackbot> action-875 -- Atsushi Shimono to Find out actual
status of webvtt documents from issue 15 etc. -- due 2020-03-26
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/875
[19] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/875
atsushi: sent email to member list; that spec was developed in
CG and trasitioned to the WG
... so active
close action-875
<trackbot> Closed action-875.
action-876?
<trackbot> action-876 -- Addison Phillips to Research webvtt
horizontal review request and contact plh if there appears to
be a gap -- due 2020-03-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/876
[20] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/876
close action-876
<trackbot> Closed action-876.
action-877?
<trackbot> action-877 -- Richard Ishida to Update the webvtt
issues with correct labels -- due 2020-03-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/877
[21] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/877
close action-877
<trackbot> Closed action-877.
Info Share
<r12a> Rules for Simple Placement of Ruby
richard: florian contacted me saying "should we do something
with Rules for Simple Placement of Ruby"
<r12a>
[22]https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html
[22] https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html
RADAR Review
[23]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
rules for simple placement of ruby
<r12a>
[24]https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html
[24] https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html
richard: this small document is potentially useful
... doesn't cover ruby in dramatic depth such as JLReq
... jsut the salient bits
... here's one way of doing that
... there have been some editorial comments twice
... one thing I feel strongly about
... section at end
... things I am not sure I agree with
... doesn't fit with overall doc
... was maybe an afterthought?
... there is a lot more to say about ruby and a11y
... good to have written up
... and not add here
... would suggest that when published, publish without section
4 on accessibility
... and maybe make a new doc for that
<atsushi> +1
addison: need to know disposition?
richard: florian recommends that we publish as a note
... think I agree
... it's nicely done in respec and could have japanese in it
addison: would want wide review?
richard: suggest we review for next week and decide what next
steps should be
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG to review rules for simple
placement of ruby for next week's telecon
<trackbot> Created ACTION-879 - Remind wg to review rules for
simple placement of ruby for next week's telecon [on Addison
Phillips - due 2020-04-02].
atsushi: murata-san is getting updated requirements from JP
point of view, esp. publishing
... including accessibility
... interviewed many people, gained insight
... support to separate accessibility section
... another point; after publishing (inaudible) PDF doc
... many updated but not motivation to update document
... update just english version for now?
richard: can we change the japanese version anyway?
atsushi: one concern; updating japanese version would be
reverse translation into japanese doc
... not sure how specifically
richard: little change would be needed? fuqiao already produced
interleaved version
atsushi: in discussion of jlreq group, not supported for
combined document
... just english
addison: where would be put removed a11y material?
atsushi: murata/makoto-san doing research
... such kind of update could be put in that section
... it's on-goign activity
... splitting doc into two
addison: new doc "requirements for ruby accessibility"?
richard: just make a doc for it in the repo
<r12a>
[25]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+
label%3Asimple-ruby
[25] https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:simple-ruby
<scribe> ACTION: richard: ask florian about splitting the
accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for
taking doc to Note
<trackbot> Created ACTION-880 - Ask florian about splitting the
accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for
taking doc to note [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-04-02].
richard: there are open issues at link
... one practical thing
... if you follow links, the commit history points to wrong doc
and similarly PRs
<scribe> ACTION: richard: set up simple-ruby repo
<trackbot> Created ACTION-881 - Set up simple-ruby repo [on
Richard Ishida - due 2020-04-02].
Issues Resolution
[26]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020M
ar/0004.html
[26] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Mar/0004.html
<xfq_> [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/8
[27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/8
<xfq_> [28]https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/256/files
[28] https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/256/files
<scribe> ACTION: addison: reply to webvtt issue 256 (our issue
8)
<trackbot> Created ACTION-882 - Reply to webvtt issue 256 (our
issue 8) [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-02].
<xfq_> [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/40
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/40
<xfq_> [30]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4452
[30] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4452
<xfq_>
[31]https://drafts.csswg.org/css-variables/#custom-property
[31] https://drafts.csswg.org/css-variables/#custom-property
<xfq_> [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/79
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/79
addison: can't close 40 pending change to whatwg
<xfq_> [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/842
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/842
xfq: bert also raised similar issue
... haven't copied to them
... seems that these two issues can be merged
... raised against different specs
... doing in email in 2015
addison: media streams is published I think?
xfq: not a rec yet, CR currently
<xfq_>
[34]https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/issues/135
#issuecomment-579713729
[34] https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/issues/135#issuecomment-579713729
<xfq_> ^ Dom's reply
<scribe> ACTION: addison: open issue 79 against media-streams
noting that we're just housekeeping the previous issue
<trackbot> Created ACTION-883 - Open issue 79 against
media-streams noting that we're just housekeeping the previous
issue [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-02].
<xfq_> [35]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/189
[35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/189
<r12a>
[36]https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/889f7a688145cf441a16e9fa
aa1936d466117c38
[36] https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/889f7a688145cf441a16e9faaa1936d466117c38
fsasaki: raising awareness comment might help long term?
richard: looking at above link
... can we close based on that?
<fsasaki> +1
<xfq_> +1
+1
<atsushi> +1
RESOLUTION: close issue 189
<JcK> +1 (trying to fix clearly more effort than it would be
worth)
<JcK> I have to leave too... so, next week.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: open issue 79 against media-streams
noting that we're just housekeeping the previous issue
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind WG to review rules for simple
placement of ruby for next week's telecon
[NEW] ACTION: addison: reply to webvtt issue 256 (our issue 8)
[NEW] ACTION: richard: ask florian about splitting the
accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for
taking doc to Note
[NEW] ACTION: richard: set up simple-ruby repo
[NEW] ACTION: xfq: refile issue 195 against the new community
group after CG is created (depends on epub3 charter)
Summary of Resolutions
1. [37]close issue 189
[End of minutes]
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