- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:57:38 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2019/04/18-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
18 Apr 2019
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Apr/0012.html
Attendees
Present
r12a, atsushi, addison, Jeff_, xfq, kaz, JcK, Matthias,
Sebastian
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]WoT reviews
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]Retiring Charmod-Resid
5. [8]AOB?
* [9]Summary of Action Items
* [10]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
<scribe> Scribenick: addison
WoT reviews
[11]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[11] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
(addison introduces)
<kaz> [12]kaz's write up
[12]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2019AprJun/0026.html
kaz: our main purpose is first doc, WoT Thing Description
... other is kind of basic concepts
... our schedule, we'd like to bring to CR at end of the month
... already has some i18n features
... like to know if this is okay
richard: doc I'm looking at is not in a w3c repo
... would prefer if it were in w3c repo before we review
kaz: updating the draft daily, but generated fixed version
using branch
... if needed, I can copy the fixed HTML to the www.w3.org
server.
<mkovatsc_> W3C repo:
[13]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/
mathias: our doc is on github
sebastian: would having a meeting to guide you helpful?
richard: if you can review our checklist, that will help you
guide us
... think it is a good idea for you to look through and
identify things important for us to review
... we will likely look other places too, but it will still
help
...
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/shortchecklist.
html
... points to more detailed checklist also
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/shortchecklist.html
<inserted> [15]detailed checklist
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs
richard: if you go through and see if there are things to pay
attention to while doing review
... we have to understand your document in just a few days
addison: anything you want to call attention to?
mathias: we will send you links to paths of doc
... and double check guidelines
<kaz> s/matthias:/sebastian:/
richard: can you give a brief overview of docs?
sebastian: easiest way to explain is
... everyone knows html
... thing description is for devices
... index html for things
... describe capabilities of things
... properties, action events
... data expected
... protocol, such as http or some other iot protocol
... RDF based
Explainer:
[16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/TD-TAG-re
view/explainer/Explainer.md
[16]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/TD-TAG-review/explainer/Explainer.md
Sebastian: what is the action about, title and description
terms
<r12a> [17]https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/
[17] https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/
Sebastian: multiple language support
r12a: is there some kind of markup involved? how is information
stored
sebastian: thing description can be stored in different ways
matthias: json based interchange format
... aligned with JSON-LD
... so JSON 1.1 could be used
... model for json structure so can be machine read
... have a few human-readable fields
richard: put a link to string-meta, should read carefully
... anticipating comments, since we have identified problems
with RDF and LD
... involving base direction
Matthias: not a format for display
kaz: have discussion with ld group, including Ivan Herman
... model describes device properties and how to control using
actions and events
... concentrating on how to deal with devices properties
... will look into detailed checklist
addison: only one telecon before end of month
r12a: would like to understand why you didn't come forward
sooner
... were you unaware?
matthias: didn't understand process
richard: need to find way to understand process earlier on
... also maybe having an i18n champion in WG
kaz: first of all, very sorry as the team contact that we
couldn't bring this earlier. there were important technical
problems
... took longer than we expect
addison: used to reviewing very raw specs
matthias: reached out in tpac
... something fell between lines
... good if some kind of early registration mechanism
richard: would having a champion in your WG be helpful?
<kaz> kaz: as part of the w3c project team as well as the team
contact for wot, yes, i agree
Action Items
[18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-764?
<trackbot> action-764 -- Addison Phillips to Check if unicode
describes backwards deletion clearly and develop doc if not --
due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/764
[19] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/764
addison: PR?
action-774?
<trackbot> action-774 -- Richard Ishida to Publish first public
working draft of string-meta -- due 2019-02-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/774
[20] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/774
close action-774
<trackbot> Closed action-774.
action-795?
<trackbot> action-795 -- Addison Phillips to Send issue 521 to
css -- due 2019-04-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/795
[21] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/795
close action-795
<trackbot> Closed action-795.
action-797?
<trackbot> action-797 -- Atsushi Shimono to Start writing
weekly summary of new/tracked issues -- due 2019-04-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/797
[22] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/797
atsushi: including one line of description
richard: including 2 in chinese, one at bottom
atsushi: included some from lreqs
richard: only include if questions
action-798?
<trackbot> action-798 -- Addison Phillips to Make new
autocapitalization issue against html based on today's
discussion -- due 2019-04-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/798
[23] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/798
close action-798
<trackbot> Closed action-798.
Info Share
regrets next week from addison
richard: LTR/RTL doc being reworked
... have a look at new version
<r12a>
[24]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-ltr-scripts-i
n-rtl.en.html
[24]
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-ltr-scripts-in-rtl.en.html
Retiring Charmod-Resid
<r12a>
[25]https://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-charmod-resid-20041122/
[25] https://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-charmod-resid-20041122/
proposed: retire charmod-resid; convert to WD and then convert
to Note and retire it
jck: choice is either "please don't read this" or do lots of
work
please vote on retiring charmod-resid
<r12a> +1
+1
<xfq> +1
<Jeff_> +1
<JcK> +1
<atsushi> +1
<Bert> +1
RESOLUTION: retire charmod-resid (withdraw from CR, convert to
WD, and publish as retired Note)
AOB?
next week's telecon canceled
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
1. [26]retire charmod-resid (withdraw from CR, convert to WD,
and publish as retired Note)
[End of minutes]
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