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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
29 Sep 2016
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Sep/0020.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/29-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Steve, Richard, Lina, Felix, felix, joconner,
najib
Regrets
JcK, Francesco
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Radar and Active Work Review
5. [9]Issue Triage
6. [10]FindText API and Web Platform Charter
7. [11]What happened at TPAC?
8. [12]Charmod, Encoding, etc.
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
* [15]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda
Action Items
[16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-536?
<trackbot> action-536 -- Richard Ishida to Publish
predefined-counter-styles as a wg note -- due 2016-06-30 --
OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/536
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/536
richard: getting some comments and need to address them first
action-538?
<trackbot> action-538 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard
and plh to establish procedure for bringing changes to encoding
forward -- due 2016-06-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/538
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/538
<scribe> done
close action-538
<trackbot> Closed action-538.
<scribe> ACTION: richard to establish a process for
auto-publishing updates to encoding on a regular basis
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/29-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/29-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-560 - Establish a process for
auto-publishing updates to encoding on a regular basis [on
Richard Ishida - due 2016-10-06].
action-542?
<trackbot> action-542 -- Richard Ishida to Ask after
dpub-pagination status and if they want/ready for a review --
due 2016-07-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/542
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/542
close action-542
<trackbot> Closed action-542.
richard: aware that's a question and may get around to it
eventually; not ready now
close action-549
<trackbot> Closed action-549.
actin-551?
action-551?
<trackbot> action-551 -- Addison Phillips to Drop current
charmod section 4 into the wiki for posterity or future use and
then edit to remove -- due 2016-09-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/551
[21] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/551
addison: created string-search for that
close action-551
<trackbot> Closed action-551.
action-552?
<trackbot> action-552 -- Addison Phillips to Write to json-ld
about potential for a serialization form for natural language
strings to address issues with dir and lang -- due 2016-09-29
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/552
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/552
addison: read json-ld, will have a draft next week
action-554?
<trackbot> action-554 -- Addison Phillips to Work to schedule a
review of microformats -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/554
[23] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/554
action-556?
<trackbot> action-556 -- Elika Etemad to Convert her text
justification to respec -- due 2016-09-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[24]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/556
[24] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/556
richard: did that for her
close action-556
<trackbot> Closed action-556.
close action-557
<trackbot> Closed action-557.
action-558?
<trackbot> action-558 -- Richard Ishida to Do due diligence on
converting layout tfs to cgs -- due 2016-09-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[25]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/558
[25] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/558
richard: did some of that, need to chat with Wendy
... will talk about later
... on it
close action-559
<trackbot> Closed action-559.
Info Share
welcoming new members
Lina: excited to be here
... based in Israel, work in IBM on bidi stuff
... contribute to ICU
JohnOC: work at Intuit
... some experience with primarily the Java platform
... since then have worked in I18N
... creating a localization platfrom
Radar and Active Work Review
[26]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
[26] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
richard: one more just came through from amy
... activitypub just moved to w3c domain
... ttml, should have a list of new stuff
... watch ruby stuff
... including non-css/non-jlreq items
steve: justification?
richard: captioning on tvs and film
steve: need to keep css and ttml in sync?
addison: yeah
richard: svg2 needs love
[27]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[27] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
addison: some traffic on mongolian and nnbsp; want to do
something diff
richard: participating in wg2
... he and the other mongolian experts
... edx: now a css course released, need to look at it
... check for i18n issues
unicode conference coming soon!
richard: who's going?
addison, richard...
Issue Triage
[28]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
[28] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
[29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/225
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/225
<fsasaki> sorry, have to go - cheers
[30]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/226
[30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/226
steve: first clarify and then guide?
addison: basically yes, can't tell if iri or uri or what
[31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/227
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/227
lina: nice to have the direction, as2 has the same problem
[32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/208
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/208
[33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/207
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/207
both accepted
richard: typo in the github in this spec?
... new version of webauthn yesterday
FindText API and Web Platform Charter
addison: do we care that this is falling on the floor?
What happened at TPAC?
<r12a> [34]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-i18n-minutes.html
[34] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-i18n-minutes.html
<r12a> [35]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/23-i18n-minutes.html
[35] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/23-i18n-minutes.html
richard: will have minutes soon, here's the minutes
... outcome of encoding with anne
... problem has been that we don't update our snapshot
regularly
... not close to his version
... so we decided to publish quite regularly
... if only editorial changes can publsih straightaway
... if substantive then 'call for exclusion' takes two months
... can do immediately but then have to wait 2 months until
next one
addison: also got permission to point to whatwg's copy of
tables
richard: easier to keep up to date, not a substantive change
any more
... following up with implementers
... dean jackson from safari
... spoke to travis from msft
... moz has henri sivonen
... should solve all the problems (hopefully)
... jungshik working bugs on chrome
... movement of impls!
... wednesday had meetings about horizontal reviews
... reorg underway
... ralph swick has responsibility to see that horizontal
reviews get done
addison: a11y, tag
najib: did you talk about arabic layout?
richard: no, other than in passing
... reported making progress, started on justification
... not much more detail
... did have a session on chinese layout TF
... in minutes
... also a discussion about whether to move TFs to Community
Groups (CGs)
... sounded good, but details may or may not be as compatible
as we thought
... still investigating
... CGs make make easy to join
... but it's not that simple
... and some organizational principles
... own agreements
... not same as Invited Expert
... doc in CG and handed over when final
... not how we've done things
... WG continues working, RI allowed to work... but more anon
as we study it
Lina: hebrew TF?
... proposed a couple months ago
... prepared charter draft
... what is next step?
... share with richard, addison and martin?
richard: yes. thanks for bringing up
... send charter and can do next steps
najib: some shared maybe?
richard: discussion with fantasai
... who is in i18n WG, but mostly does CSS
... does the i18n for css
... she put a document about justificiation together
... links to other docs
... subset of ours
<r12a> [36]http://w3c.github.io/typography/
[36] http://w3c.github.io/typography/
richard: that link will be useful to Lina
... known info about layout for non-Latin scripts
... fantasai was worried just on github
... summary is that created a doc already but need to post
... which will be at above address
... to have TR equiv (so w3c)
... contain elika's stuff in slightly diff form
... she may provide other brief summaries
... working on it!
... will try to keep page as it looks now for folks setting up
LTFs
... and others
... helps structure document for layout docs for example
... don't want links to two places
pull stuff from social into our minutes
richard: tried to review items marked "closed?"
addison: volunteers needed
richard: read minutes for the other things we pulled out
Charmod, Encoding, etc.
<r12a> [37]http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/
[37] http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/
<r12a> [38]https://w3c.github.io/string-search/
[38] https://w3c.github.io/string-search/
addison: welcome comments on charmod-norm
<r12a> [39]https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/issues
[39] https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/issues
AOB?
richard: need to do the echidna thing and fix the thing about
TR in green box
addison: yep
richard: ethiopic recently published, please look
<r12a> [40]http://w3c.github.io/elreq/
[40] http://w3c.github.io/elreq/
<r12a> [41]http://w3c.github.io/elreq/
[41] http://w3c.github.io/elreq/
richard: issue list is a bit strange here
... there are like 80 issues used for a survey
... filter those out
<r12a> [42]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
[42] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
<r12a> [43]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/repostatus/
[43] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/repostatus/
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: richard to establish a process for
auto-publishing updates to encoding on a regular basis
[recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2016/09/29-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[44] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/29-i18n-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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