[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2016-06-21

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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Jun 2016

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jun/0028.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Steven, Addison, Richard, JcK

    Regrets
           Najib, Felix

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           Addison Phillips

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [9]Specdev
          6. [10]Publish an update to Encoding CR
          7. [11]AOB?
      * [12]Summary of Action Items
      * [13]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

Agenda

Action Items

    [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-504?

    <trackbot> action-504 -- Addison Phillips to Forward remaining
    action 502 issues and ping dennis, leandro, and leslie about
    theirs -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/504

      [15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/504

    forwarded mine, did not ping the others

    action-514?

    <trackbot> action-514 -- Richard Ishida to Publish ruby markup
    article after pinging fantasai and koji -- due 2016-05-12 --
    OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/514

      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/514

    close action-514

    <trackbot> Closed action-514.

    <r12a>
    [17]https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/06/13/new-articl
    e-ruby-markup/

      [17] 
https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/06/13/new-article-ruby-markup/

    action-516?

    <trackbot> action-516 -- Addison Phillips to Triage wontfixed
    bugzilla items in case any action is needed? -- due 2016-05-12
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/516

      [18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/516

    [19]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016A
    prJun/0078.html

      [19] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016AprJun/0078.html

    close action-516

    <trackbot> Closed action-516.

Info Share

    richard: added a new status label to tracker
    ... called "deferred"
    ... will make it appear in our list
    ... idea is that, for example, <q> was put off to 5.2
    ... dont' want to close but don't want to keep reviewing it

    steven: updating instructions?

    richard: yes, doing anyway
    ... started using our issues list
    ... reviewed in our lists
    ... copy the info into their github issues list
    ... and put a link back to the original
    ... but we've started now removing the initial comment
    ... certain circumstances were we've discussed before it goes
    to the other group

    steven: keep discussiong but remove initial comment?

    richard: yes
    ... news about FindText
    ... asked Ivan about status
    ... work postponed for a period
    ... so don't worry about it

    <r12a> [20]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/

      [20] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/

    addison: if they published as note, ask for big red box on it?

    richard: please register for TPAC as soon as possible

    zakimn, take up agendum 4

RADAR and Active Work Review

    [21]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/

      [21] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/

    <Steve_Atkin> [22]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/485

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/485

    <r12a>
    [23]https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#events-keyboardevents

      [23] https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#events-keyboardevents

    <r12a>
    [24]https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/1002-dom3-events/

      [24] https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/1002-dom3-events/

    <r12a>
    [25]https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0806-xhtml-access/

      [25] https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0806-xhtml-access/

    [26]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

      [26] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

    richard: publication of ruby markup article
    ... make more visible where implementation is needed
    ... increase implementaiton adoption
    ... start writing bugs against implementations

    addison: have tests, right?

    richard: we do

    <r12a>
    [27]https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/ruby-ht
    ml

      [27] https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/ruby-html

Specdev

    [28]http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev

      [28] http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev

    [29]https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues

      [29] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues

    steven: do we think they'll understand code points and code
    units and understand those things?

    richard: "more" sections are supposed to explain
    ... but in some cases like this might be a little bare
    ... for the sake of speed, just copied recommendations direct
    form charmod

    steven: logical vs. visual order
    ... is that applicable to non-unicode encodings

    richard: guidance to spec writers
    ... don't want new specs in visual order

    steven: my concern is some of our legacy encoding heritage
    ... okay with that
    ... base direction and assuming dir from lang
    ... 7 and 8?
    ... should not require content author to use control characters
    to get direction they want, right?

    richard: could be a script or whatever, not just content author

    steven: can indicate as metadata, not use controls to get
    effect wanted
    ... want to change to be explicit "do not use lang to get dir"

    richard: may be certain situations, if not information is
    available, as a fallback
    ... doesn't always hold
    ... kind of left it

    steven: last thing was #5
    ... default text processing language
    ... for resource as a whole *and* any inheritance models

    richard: inheritance should be the case at resource and block
    level
    ... had it there so spec authors would see it in context
    ... will have another look

    steven: rest are commented on

    (Steven exuent)

    <r12a> [30]http://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/

      [30] http://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/

    <r12a> [31]https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/#C042

      [31] https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/#C042

    \u{1234}

    \U

Publish an update to Encoding CR

    richard: would like to take a decision on publishing an update
    when we know what that involves

    <r12a>
    [32]https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-
    doc2

      [32] https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-doc2

    richard: first step is to publish an updated CR
    ... some subsntative made, but mostly settling

    move to publish a new CR of Encoding

    +1

    <r12a> +1

    <JcK> +1 (with qualification for list objections)

    <scribe> ACTION:addison: call for objections to publishing
    Encoding updated CR [recorded in
    [33]http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

      [33] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

AOB?

    richard: want to be more proactive about closing issues in our
    lists
    ... marked our web-annotations ones
    ... ask www-international and then close if no objections

    [34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/close%3F

      [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/close%3F

    <r12a> [35]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

      [35] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

    do by spec

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: call for objections to publishing
    Encoding updated CR [recorded in
    [36]http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

      [36] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01

Summary of Resolutions

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