- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:26:44 +0000
- To: www-international@w3.org
http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
19 Feb 2015
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Feb/0010.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, JcK, Steve, Dennis
Regrets
Felix, Leandro, Dennis
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR and Active Work Review
5. [9]qa-no-language update
6. [10]WebVTT
7. [11]Linked Data review
8. [12]AOB?
* [13]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
Agenda
Action Items
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[14] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-113?
<trackbot> action-113 -- Richard Ishida to Work on tidying up
Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML & CSS over coming
couple of months -- due 2015-02-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/113
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/113
richard: aharon responded
... hopefully in next couple of weeks take decisison to publish
action-360?
<trackbot> action-360 -- Xiaoqian Wu to Survey publishers if
there are requirements for additional/more specific styles in
chinese e-books -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/360
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/360
action-401?
<trackbot> action-401 -- Richard Ishida to Send source text for
"intro to web addresses" to dennis -- due 2015-02-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/401
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/401
richard: converted to html5, fixed some things and sent
close action-401
<trackbot> Closed action-401.
close action-402
<trackbot> Closed action-402.
action-404?
<trackbot> action-404 -- Dennis Tan Tanaka to Check on zwj and
friends in idna so that we can document in charmod-norm -- due
2015-02-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/404
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/404
addison: (summarized)
jck: point me to relative text to summarize for you?
[19]http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/charmod-norm-20150207.html#
unicodeControls
[19]
http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/charmod-norm-20150207.html#unicodeControls
action-405?
<trackbot> action-405 -- Addison Phillips to Ensure "manifest
for web applications" is reviewd by 5 March -- due 2015-02-26
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/405
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/405
[21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015
JanMar/0067.html
[21]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2015JanMar/0067.html
Info Share
<r12a>
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/html5/bidi
-requirements/results-rli-etc
[22]
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repository/html5/bidi-requirements/results-rli-etc
richard: bring to your attention that I got around making tests
for RLI, FSI, etc.
... please take a look at the tests if interested
... these test dir isolation
... we don't have great coverage in browsers
... perhaps raise bugs?
addison: this is for the Unicode control characters, not HTML
isolation
richard: right
... should replace RLE etc.
... needed in things like javascript or in attribute values
addison: implementation state in icu and which version may be
driving
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping ICU folks about implementation
of RLI and friends in ICU, specific version and ask for review
of tests richard created [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-406 - Ping icu folks about
implementation of rli and friends in icu, specific version and
ask for review of tests richard created [on Addison Phillips -
due 2015-02-26].
RADAR and Active Work Review
[24]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[24] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
<[25]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-appmanifest-20150212/>
[25] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-appmanifest-20150212/
due 5 March
addison: will shepherd and set up tracker
[26]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
[26] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
encoding tests
richard: gaining priority
... if anyone wants to work on them...
<scribe> ACTION: addison: work with richard to draft text and
then send to www-international a call for tests for encoding
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-407 - Work with richard to draft text
and then send to www-international a call for tests for
encoding [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-02-26].
qa-no-language update
JcK: calling out lang independent identifiers
... separately from part numbers, and such
... don't know how much to say there?
richard: think my response would be "not trying to be
exhaustive"
... if there were something you wanted to label
... how would you do it?
... you gave some good examples
... when marking up for language
... there are many reasons
... so for example if you have something in Chinese, you might
want to mark as Chinese to get the right font
... or if you have a spell-checker and you don't want it to
spell check specific things
... or maybe extract things in a language
... etc.
... and the first question is why you want to mark things up
(discussion)
richard: will look at john's note and add examples to article
WebVTT
richard: was asked specifically if we would review this
... in new publication process
<scribe> ACTION: addison: raise need for formal I18N review
step in new process on chairs@ [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-408 - Raise need for formal i18n
review step in new process on chairs@ [on Addison Phillips -
due 2015-02-26].
richard: did start reviewing
... WebVTT is a spec for adding text to video or audio streams
... such as subtitles
... needs to support many language
... support vertical text
... support RTL
... etc.
... lots of info on where to place the "subtitle"
... and what reference points are for e.g. bidi or vertical,
etc.
... some attention paid to language
... including internal to a string
... maybe a gap: no base direction?
addison: will open a tracker right after call
richard: great if we can get eyes on it
set deadline for two weeks
Linked Data review
[29]http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/
[29] http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/
[30]https://www.w3.org/International/track/products/69
[30] https://www.w3.org/International/track/products/69
issue-409?
<trackbot> issue-409 -- What are the string matching rules in
the delete operation -- open
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/409
[31] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/409
steve: don't define what it means for a string to "match"
... they have e.g. a delete operation
... what are the rules for string matching?
... does normalization, et al apply?
... this is about "patching" RDF graphs
[32]http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/#delete-statement
[32] http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/#delete-statement
issue-410?
<trackbot> issue-410 -- Language tags should reference BCP 47
-- open
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/410
[33] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/410
steve: if you scroll to bottom of seciton 3
... concrete syntax
... they have an element called 'langtag'
... defining language tags??
<r12a> [34]http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/#dfn-langtag
[34] http://www.w3.org/TR/ldpatch/#dfn-langtag
addison: should reference obs langtag in bcp47
richard: should reference bcp47 somewhere
issue-411?
<trackbot> issue-411 -- Definition of whitespace should come
from Unicode -- open
<trackbot> [35]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/411
[35] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/411
richard: define sort of a "best practices" so we can show to
WGs ahead (rather than correcting later)
<r12a> [36]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Bp_spec_bidi
[36] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Bp_spec_bidi
<r12a>
[37]http://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs
-dynamic
[37]
http://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs-dynamic
<scribe> ACTION: addison: add creation of best practices for
spec authors to project radar [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-409 - Add creation of best practices
for spec authors to project radar [on Addison Phillips - due
2015-02-26].
<scribe> chair: make wg comments?
none noted
remove provisional
<r12a>
[39]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
[39] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: add creation of best practices for spec
authors to project radar [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: ping ICU folks about implementation of
RLI and friends in ICU, specific version and ask for review of
tests richard created [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: raise need for formal I18N review step
in new process on chairs@ [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: work with richard to draft text and then
send to www-international a call for tests for encoding
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/19-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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