- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:17:58 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
09 Oct 2014
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Oct/0003.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Steve, JcK, Dennis, Xiaoqian, Koji
Regrets
Felix, Leandro, David, Mati
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR
5. [9]meeting with Digital Publications IG on Friday
afternoon during TPAC
6. [10]Intent to Implement Form Controls Respecting @lang
7. [11]AOB?
8. [12]What Time Is This Meeting At?
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
Agenda
Action Items
close action-344
<trackbot> Closed action-344.
close action-346
<trackbot> Closed action-346.
close action-348
<trackbot> Closed action-348.
action-349?
<trackbot> action-349 -- Richard Ishida to Put together
framework for wiki/document discussing issues and proposals for
handling locale of form widgets -- due 2014-10-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/349
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/349
Info Share
richard: did an edit on english version of chinese layout
requirements
... which is mainly just the ruby parts
... will discuss with xiaoqian tomorrow
<xiaoqian> [16]https://clreq.hackpad.com/Ruby_en-LEZdmNzTVUf
[16] https://clreq.hackpad.com/Ruby_en-LEZdmNzTVUf
richard: may not be to fpwd by tpac
xiaoqian: need some more pictures, but would be good to finish
by then
RADAR
[17]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
addison: two new docs
steve: will look at XSLT
... and shepherd
meeting with Digital Publications IG on Friday afternoon during TPAC
richard: Ivan Herrmann contacted xiaoqian and I
... and wanted to know if we'd talk to digital pubs group
... about the latin layout requirements
... and yes, the whole WG
... we meet Thurs/Fri
... and they have time Friday about 2 PM
... so should all go
<scribe> ACTION: addison: notify membership that I18N will meet
with DigPubs at 3 PM on Friday at TPAC [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-350 - Notify membership that i18n
will meet with digpubs at 3 pm on friday at tpac [on Addison
Phillips - due 2014-10-16].
richard: have a preso to use as a basis
addison: may have some slides for you, but would love to see
yours
richard: can post link
<r12a>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/talks/1409-china/china2014.
pdf
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/talks/1409-china/china2014.pdf
Intent to Implement Form Controls Respecting @lang
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014O
ct/0000.html
[20]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Oct/0000.html
<r12a>
[21]https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blin
k-dev/QpEoCwU0Ttg
[21]
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/QpEoCwU0Ttg
richard: the implementers are suggesting two things:
... 1. automatic provision of translated text controls like
'Submit' on buttons
... 2. presentation of dates and numbers is localized unless
otherwise specified
<r12a> local tagging of language can be useful for mislabelled
pages
<r12a> ... and clearer control of legacy pages
<r12a> addison: if you want opt in you'd need something other
than lang addition
<r12a> koji: so the idea of adding to form control provides an
opt in mechanism
<r12a> steve: we need to avoid potential confusion in the user
- so if the html controls clearly indicate what's going on that
would help
<r12a> john: that would be a good idea independent of this
discussion
<r12a> steve: i don't think the html standard currently
requires an input format pattern
<r12a> ... it's 'presentational'
<r12a> ... what if the user chooses a locale thats unavailable
- could it be a security risk?
<r12a> koji: also possible security risk of people using format
to create misdirection
<r12a> addison: data fields have a prescribed wire format
<r12a> steve: whatever the presentation, it's sent over only in
one form
<r12a> john: the browser still needs to interpret what you type
to get the conversion correct
1.000
<r12a> koji: how to be 100% sure about what is being
transmitted - that's why we want to investigate to determine
whether there are really security issues
<r12a> addison: it also interacts with CSS and other external
things that could be used to affect it
<r12a> koji: we seem to be agreeing that this is generally a
good idea, but needs careful consideration, and would be good
to have a list of things to discuss
addison: should we chime in on discussion?
<r12a> agreement to let them know that we're thinking about it
<scribe> ACTION: addison: respond to intent to implement @lang
in forms with note that we're building a document describing
issues [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-351 - Respond to intent to implement
@lang in forms with note that we're building a document
describing issues [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-10-16].
<r12a> addison: what about digit shaping per locale?
addison: digit shaping might happen by default
... will copy koji and public list on my AI
AOB?
What Time Is This Meeting At?
addison: what date would we start? proposed was 13th of
November
... no calls during IUC38 or TPAC
will have new time starting the 13th
<scribe> ACTION: addison: change teleconference call time
starting 13 November [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-352 - Change teleconference call time
starting 13 november [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-10-16].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: change teleconference call time starting
13 November [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: notify membership that I18N will meet
with DigPubs at 3 PM on Friday at TPAC [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: respond to intent to implement @lang in
forms with note that we're building a document describing
issues [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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