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Re: Encoding: Referring people to a list of labels

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@hsivonen.fi>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +0200
Message-ID: <CANXqsR+Vyn7eFo=Gc-mp=bd__hL8=m94oyCS+Lpzt+TA_HFtUw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Andrew Cunningham <lang.support@gmail.com>
Cc: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl>, WWW International <www-international@w3.org>, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Andrew Cunningham
<lang.support@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 January 2014 07:59, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Andrew Cunningham
>> <lang.support@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Firefox provides no UI to switch graphite support on and off.
>> Why do you need to switch it off? Per
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700023 it has been
>> enabled by default for a while now.
> ON for some platforms after an unspecified version (not for older versions
> before path landed)

The version is not unspecified. The bug Anne  reference says Firefox
22. That means that it's in the current normal release, in multiple
previous normal releases and in the current ESR. Worrying about older
releases makes no sense.

> And yes there used to be a Firefox for Android addon to toggle Graphite
> support ... but it should be something within the UI

I took a look at the source code of that extension and then checked
what the default state in the current release of Firefox for Android
is for the pref that it toggles. The pref that it toggles now defaults
to Graphite enabled even on Android.

> there are quite a few graphite fonts out there, some of the ironies about
> blink not supporting Graphite

If Web authors don't use Graphite, chances of Blink adding support are
pretty much non-existent. Look at MathML. Blink *removed* support for
that when it was on the verge of become viable for *Wikipedia*, which
is seriously popular. With an attitude like that, what chances does
Graphite have in Blink unless Web content uses it?

You shouldn't expect progress in this space if you don't reward the
first mover (Firefox in this case) by using the feature you need and
you don't promote the browser that has the feature to the users who'd
need the feature.

Henri Sivonen
Received on Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:31:28 UTC

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