[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2014-06-12


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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

12 Jun 2014



    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/06/12-i18n-irc


           Addison, Richard, Leandro, Mati, John_K, Felix

           Addison Phillips

           Addison Phillips


      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]RADAR
          5. [9]dir isolation tests
          6. [10]Encoding Last Call
          7. [11]CharMod
          8. [12]dcat
          9. [13]AOB?
      * [14]Summary of Action Items


Action Items


      [15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    close action-251

    <trackbot> Closed action-251.


    <trackbot> action-252 -- Felix Sasaki to Ping dita folks about
    contacting html5 about ruby progress -- due 2013-09-05 -- OPEN


      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/252


    <trackbot> action-312 -- Richard Ishida to Talk to dom about
    adding status tracking stuff to tracker for encoding last call
    purposes -- due 2014-06-12 -- OPEN


      [17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/312

    richard: talk to sysreq instead
    ... probably won't happen soon
    ... just make do?

    close action-312

    <trackbot> Closed action-312.

Info Share

    felix: add item to agenda at the end



      [18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open



    JcK: discussion on W3C/IETF call
    ... on getting URN unstuck
    ... still stuck
    ... librarians want URN features that can't be currently
    ... have long term view
    ... similarly WHATWG/W3C changes to URL
    ... is inconsistent with generic URI syntax
    ... concern is whether we end up with a bunch of forked
    ... or define relationship of these two specs to generic URI
    ... go ahead and separate URN
    ... and move URL to W3C (??)
    ... and do something to URI 3986

dir isolation tests







    richard: put together tests
    ... to see if elements are isolating
    ... and element is treated as a neutral
    ... basically all items are red
    ... there are like 12 tests per box
    ... and only one or two per fail
    ... dir isolation is not default on any browser yet
    ... not a surprise
    ... second table with shim
    ... we get better results
    ... FF has 2 fails
    ... Safari has one
    ... only small issues
    ... IE doesn't use CSS necessary for shim
    ... want you to look at tests
    ... are they valid?
    ... give feedback?
    ... I think they are pretty valid
    ... like to hear any comments

    matial: had a look at the tests
    ... are those tests inspired from aharon's tests?
    ... those were from work group in Jerusalem
    ... look similar
    ... may not be same?
    ... reviewed then and were appropriate

    richard: took the bdi tests
    ... worked from them
    ... made some changes
    ... most of aharon tests had six subtests
    ... also put in tests for dir=auto
    ... and dir=ltr and rtl
    ... made one or two other changes

    matial: looking at what was tested
    ... source code hard to decipher
    ... couldn't find words i the tests
    ... what was tested wasn't obvious in the test
    ... useful to add to page pseudo code to page
    ... so it's apparent what is tested
    ... would be interesting to read to know



    richard: when you go to a link like above
    ... that's to the framework
    ... actual test is in an iframe
    ... gray rectangle is limit of iframe
    ... you have to right click in the frame
    ... and view that source

    matial: on page with list of tests
    ... last line is list of browsers

    richard: "score" is your current browser
    ... when you click on score
    ... buttons for scoring
    ... and it'll move through tests
    ... after you go through several times
    ... "show results" will generate the code to mail to richard
    ... to merge with existing info in the tables

    matial: mail you remarks
    ... ?

    richard: if you want to run on particular platform
    ... the show result box would show you what you've entered
    ... that's for *running* the tests
    ... but not for reviewing them
    ... please send me email to review them

Encoding Last Call



    addison: need to publish files
    ... want to keep links for now to whatwg
    ... need to do when we move to CR
    ... keep from forking until we actually publish CR

    <r12a> [25]http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/7

      [25] http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/7


    <trackbot> issue-335 -- health warnings for when language not
    known -- open

    <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/335

      [26] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/335


    <trackbot> issue-355 -- Supporting files referenced rather than
    copied -- open

    <trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/355

      [27] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/355

    reviewed this item

    richard: been talking to martin about his tests
    ... he's not using the exact template for TTWF
    ... just be aware

    addison: coverage map?

    richard: hope to open it up shortly
    ... similar problem to dir tests
    ... you get a pass/fail for each byte


    addison: preparing document for publication



      [28] http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#Property:catalog_language

    felix: already a recommendation

    addison: should at least point to IANA registry, since that is
    ... but better to have BCP47

    <scribe> ACTION: felix: contact DCAT folks about
    catalog_language [recorded in

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-313 - Contact dcat folks about
    catalog_language [on Felix Sasaki - due 2014-06-19].


    richard: started working on ruby tests
    ... look out for them soon

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: felix: contact DCAT folks about catalog_language
    [recorded in

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