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RE: [counter-styles] i18n-ISSUE-285: Hebrew number converter inadequate for numbers >= 1000

From: Matitiahu Allouche <matitiahu.allouche@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:56:35 +0300
To: "'Richard Ishida'" <ishida@w3.org>, "'W3C Style'" <www-style@w3.org>, "'www International'" <www-international@w3.org>
Message-ID: <3cca01cec9e9$0a6afdf0$1f40f9d0$@gmail.com>
   Hello, Richard!

Let 's assume that A to V represent the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet (excluding the final forms).
The numeric value of these letters are:
A  1
B  2
C  3
D  4
E  5
F  6
G  7
H  8
I  9
J  10
K  20
L  30
M  40
N  50
O  60
P  70
Q  80
R  90
S  100
T  200
U  300
V  400

The number 12345 can be thought as 10+2 thousands 300+40+5. With letters this gives:   JB'UME
This is in logical order.  When displaying, these letters are laid out right to left like any other Hebrew literals, so that the display will be 
EMU'BJ

Let me know if this is not clear enough.
--
Shalom (Regards),  Mati


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Ishida [mailto:ishida@w3.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:56 PM
To: W3C Style; www International
Subject: Re: [counter-styles] i18n-ISSUE-285: Hebrew number converter inadequate for numbers >= 1000

Mati, if we display
12345
as
יב׳שמה
i'm assuming that the character representing 0-9 should be on the right, and the digits representing thousands should be on the left (ie. rtl display of characters from the text stream).
Is that right?

RI


On 20/08/2013 19:27, Richard Ishida wrote:
> Raised by:
>      Matitiahu Allouche
>
> Opened on:
>      2013-08-04
>
> Description:
>      This comment relates to
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-css-counter-styles-3-20130718/ section 
> 6.1 for Hebrew, and also to 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-predefined-counter-styles-20130725/ 
> section
> 12 Hebrew which is a duplicate of the former.
>
>      In the text, the additive symbols max up at 400. For numbers 
> larger than 799, the symbol for 400 will appear several times. For 
> numbers like the Hebrew year (currently 5773), this gives 14 such 
> symbols, which is hardly readable and does not conform to common usage.
>      The better usage is to have the number of thousands followed by 
> Geresh (\5F3) followed by the rest of the number.
>      For 5773, this would give \5D4 \5F3 \5EA \5E9 \5E2 \5D2.
>      Note that there is no space between the thousands and the rest of 
> the number.
>      For 12345, we would have \5D9 \5D1 \5F3 \5E9 \5DE \5D4.
>
>
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