- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:20:57 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
11 Jul 2012
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Jul/0001.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Felix, Norbert, Gwyneth, Koji, David,
John, Mati
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]ECMAScript Internationalization API
5. [9]IRI vs. SRI [discussion from IRI list]
6. [10]CSS3 Flexbox
7. [11]CSS3 Writing-Mode column progression
8. [12]Web Notifications
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
Agenda
ES I18N API
Action Items
<r12a> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close ACTION-132
<trackbot> ACTION-132 (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) review Web
Notifications for revew at 27 June WG teleconference closed
close ACTION-134
<trackbot> ACTION-134 Send Web Notifications comments closed
close ACTION-135
<trackbot> ACTION-135 Publish ruby approaches document as First
Public Working Draft and announce closed
Info Share
ECMAScript Internationalization API
<Norbert>
[16]http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=globalization:specif
ication_drafts
[16]
http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=globalization:specification_drafts
norbert: in last two weeks published new version (above link)
<Norbert>
[17]http://norbertlindenberg.com/2012/06/ecmascript-internation
alization-api/index.html
[17]
http://norbertlindenberg.com/2012/06/ecmascript-internationalization-api/index.html
<joconner> my headset may not be working properly. Adobe is
interested in becoming more involved in Ecmascript, and
encourages my participation here and with Ecma more. That's my
infoshare….and now we're on that topic. Excellent.
norbert: and my "gentle intro" is at above link
... there should be a public review, but not sure how that
works
... except maybe public-script-coord@
... hoping for feedback
richard: forwarded your email back to winter@ list because your
message bounced
norbert: folks can start reviewing
... can we agenda+ for next week
<scribe> chair: got it
norbert: hope for feedback by July 24-26 (next TC39 meeting)
<joconner> where is that TC39 meeting?
norbert: in redmond at MSFT campus
richard: also forwarded to w3c-team
addison: notes Alan W-B added Unicode support to ES6 draft
IRI vs. SRI [discussion from IRI list]
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2012Jul/0030
.html
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2012Jul/0030.html
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2012Jul/0012
.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2012Jul/0012.html
While the URI specification has been widely deployed, it has
long been recognized that many valid URIs, especially those
that contain extensive information in the "tail" are unsuitable
for user presentation, especially for internationalized
environments. IRIs have been proposed as a solution for that
problem but inherit (and are constrained by) the complex and
sometimes method-dependent syntax model of URIs as well as
positional and orde
[20]http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-klensin-iri-sri-00
[20] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-klensin-iri-sri-00
to read next week
CSS3 Flexbox
[21]http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-css3-flexbox-20120612/
[21] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-css3-flexbox-20120612/
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2012J
ulSep/0019.html
[22]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2012JulSep/0019.html
richard: read norbert's email
... can't think of anything to add/subtract
- Section 8.3 and 8.5 use a flex item's baseline, but don't say
how that baseline is determined. CSS 2.1 defines baselines for
inline tables and inline blocks, the first as the baseline of
the first row of the table, the second as the baseline of its
last line box in the normal flow. The latter doesn't seem
likely to result in the layout shown in figure 10 in section
8.3, which seems to align based on first lines. Some
clarification would be welcome.
all left-to-right examples
- The markup makes the mention of "hypothetical cross size" at
the end of section 9.3 the definition of the term, but I don't
see an actual definition there, or anywhere else.
koji: regarding baseline, there was discussion around april of
that
... need to lookup
<koji>
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Apr/0414.
html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Apr/0414.html
koji: was resolved, but if it didn't get in the spec, we should
make feedback
norbert: will read up on it and adjust accordingly
main comment: need different direction examples
<scribe> ACTION: Norbert: add CSS3 Flexbox comments to tracker
and forward to CSS WG [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-136 - Add CSS3 Flexbox comments to
tracker and forward to CSS WG [on Norbert Lindenberg - due
2012-07-18].
CSS3 Writing-Mode column progression
<koji>
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Jul/0179.
html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Jul/0179.html
what is the progression direction when you have both horizontal
and vertical in the same book?
koji: is "right column first" the better solution?
... if number of columns grow, then computation becomes complex
... it becomes very theoretical because page-progression and
column progression become mixed
addison: PPD alteration happens on a spread, but not over a
larger sequence of pages
... will also ask my colleagues if they have additional
feedback
koji: wirting-modes next week
... okay to review ED?
<scribe> chair: yes
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: review the best document for feedback
Web Notifications
richard: concerns about moving to last call
... delaying because of our comments
addison: do they have plans to modify their document?
richard: two topics
... i. label fragments
... ii. whether multiple is allowed
... and (i) is the one we originally asked for
... separate directionality from language
... helpful to have guidelines to point to at earlier stage
<scribe> ACTION: richard: make a wiki page with the basis for
general guidelines for everyone to pile on [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Make a wiki page with the basis
for general guidelines for everyone to pile on [on Richard
Ishida - due 2012-07-18].
norbert: withdraw localized fragments?
richard: second that
addison: agree
<scribe> ACTION: Addison: follow up on Web Notifications in
three separate emails to separate threads, closing off
localized fragments and direction and asking for resolution on
language [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Follow up on Web Notifications
in three separate emails to separate threads, closing off
localized fragments and direction and asking for resolution on
language [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-07-18].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Addison: follow up on Web Notifications in three
separate emails to separate threads, closing off localized
fragments and direction and asking for resolution on language
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Norbert: add CSS3 Flexbox comments to tracker and
forward to CSS WG [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: make a wiki page with the basis for
general guidelines for everyone to pile on [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/11-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/
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