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Re: Should the UTF-8 BOM trump overriding via HTTP or by users?

From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:56:29 +0200
To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Cc: www-international <www-international@w3.org>
Message-ID: <ftdsu65ajebgfdpbnrgv01c3dtiov4mf7i@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de>
* Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>Bjoern Hoehrmann, Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:39:34 +0200:
>> Higher-level information overrides lower-level information, explicit
>> information overrides fallbacks, and user agents should do what their
>> users want them to do. So, HTTP-level Content-Type overrides document-
>> internal information, a BOM overrides user-chosen fallbacks, and user-
>> chosen overrides trump anything else.
>You portray the BOM as  "fallback". It actuallly is an encoding 

If you think I wrote something that is inconsistent with facts, then
maybe you misread what I wrote? I did not, and did not mean to, por-
tray a Unicode signature as a fallback in the sense I used the word.
I meant fallback in the sense of a "If page lacks encoding declaration
assume it's $encoding encoded" setting, as opposed to a "Whatever the
page says it's encoded in, use $encoding to decode" setting.

>"Looks like a BOM". Looks like or are exactly those bytes? Can you 
>describe a use case? When and how can an XML document/entity legally 
>start with the BOM if it is not meant to  be interpreted as the BOM?  

Looks like as opposed to "defined as".

  Content-Type: application/xml-external-parsed-entity;charset=l1

  0xFE 0xFF

That's a properly formed external parsed entity containing LATIN SMALL
charset parameter, the bytes may look like a Unicode signature, but the
bytes are not a Unicode signature because they are not defined as such.
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