- From: Misha Wolf <Misha.Wolf@reuters.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:28:25 +0000
- To: newsml-2@yahoogroups.com, www-international@w3.org
[This mail forms part of a thread on how to represent people's names in NewsML 2. To join the newsml-2 list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newsml-2/ The NewsML 2 specs etc are available at: http://www.iptc.org/NAR/1.0/] In reponse to my previous mail, I received a number of comments along the lines of "I don't have a baptismal name". For folks unfamiliar with the principles of NewsML 2, I'll briefly say that syntax such as: <name scope="scp:baptismal">Norma Jeane Baker</name> means that the string "Norma Jeane Baker" is an instance of what NewsML 2 might call a "name", that this name has what NewsML 2 might call a "scope" and that this scope has a value "scp:baptismal", which expands to (eg): http://www.some.uri#baptismal where one might find a definition of "Baptismal name". It does *not* mean: - that everyone has a baptismal name - that the members of the NewsML 2 Architecture WP have baptismal names - that the main use of NewsML 2 will be to exchange news about people who have baptismal names - that the Moon is made of green cheese Every NewsML 2 producer is free to define their own terms or to adopt terms defined by anyone else. For example; <name>Theodor Herzl</name> <name scope="scp:hebrew">Binyamin Ze'ev Herzl</name> where "scp:hebrew" expands to (eg): http://www.some.uri#hebrew or: <name scope="foo:hebrew">Binyamin Ze'ev Herzl</name> where "foo:hebrew" expands to (eg): http://www.someother.uri#hebrew The other main class of comments concerned xml:lang. Yes, the proposed "name" element will accept xml:lang. I'll now return to the discussion of names. I've pretty much left parts 1 and 2 the same, but have substantially changed parts 3 and 4. I see four orthogonal axes (which can be combined as required): part, scope, formality, purpose. 1. Part of name (attribute name "part") --------------------------------------- Example values are: pt:given, pt:family, pt:full, pt:usual. Default value: If @part is omitted, pt:usual is assumed. An example is: <name>Pablo Picasso</name> <name part="pt:given">Pablo</name> <name part="pt:family">Picasso</name> <name part="pt:full">Pablo Diego José Santiago Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno Crispín Crispiniano de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz Picasso</name> 2. Social scope of name (attribute name "scope" or "role") ---------------------------------------------------------- Example values are: scp:original, scp:baptismal, scp:hebrew, scp: married, scp:usual. Default value: If @scope is omitted, scp:usual is assumed. Examples are: <name>Marilyn Monroe</name> <name scope="scp:original">Norma Jeane Mortenson</name> <name scope="scp:baptismal">Norma Jeane Baker</name> <name scope="scp:married">Norma Jeane Dougherty</name> <name scope="scp:work scp:usual">Marilyn Monroe</name> or: <name>Theodor Herzl</name> <name scope="scp:hebrew">Binyamin Ze'ev Herzl</name> 3. Formality of style (attribute name "style" or "form") -------------------------------------------------------- Example values are: st:formal, st:informal. There is no default value. Examples are: <name style="st:formal">Zinédine Zidane</name> <name style="st:informal">Zizou</name> <name style="st:formal">Michael Wolf</name> <name style="st:informal">Misha Wolf</name> There are more complex cases, which pose the question of how a nickname relates to the formality axis. Is a nickname the most informal name? Consider: <name>John Fitzgerald Kennedy</name> <name>John F. Kennedy</name> <name>Jack Kennedy</name> <name>JFK</name> The first is clearly the most formal. The second one is the second most formal. I don't know which is more/less formal: the third or the fourth? In any event, this suggests that formal-or-informal may not be sufficient, as there are levels of (in)formality. This is a similar case: <name>George Walker Bush</name> <name>George W. Bush</name> <name>Dubya</name> <name>W</name> [See http://www.georgewbushstore.com/200-8001.htm] though here the third and fourth names are probably equally informal. 4. Purpose (attribute name "purpose") ------------------------------------- Example values are: prp:pronounce, prp:sort. Examples are: <name purpose="prp:sort">Zidane, Zinédine</name> <name purpose="prp:pronounce" xml:lang="en">Pútin</name> Misha To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
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