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Re: New tests: RTL content and browser chrome

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:58:02 +0900
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To: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>, <www-international@w3.org>

Hello Richard,

Some comments on the tests:

"browser chrome": Most people won't understand "chrome".
Please add a short explanation. See e.g.

"This is one of a set of pages": So what's the set.
-> Add a link to the set.

"This behaviour is not described by the HTML specification."
behaviour -> behavior
Be stronger here, add something like: ..., so there is no
correct answer. Users may disagree on what's best. This test
only serves to check what browsers actually do currently.

"Click me" -> "Test": Less device-dependent, and more clear
what the user has to do to actually start the test.

Actual tests (Alert box an User Prompt): It asks "does dir
on <html> affect...". When I click, I see two Hebrew words
and "W3C". How would I go about to answer the question that
the test is asking? I don't have anything to compare with.
Some people may read Hebrew, and may be able to guess, but
others may only read Arabic or none of these languages,
despite working on browsers and/or being bidi experts.
(on Opera (version 8.53), test results were the same
for all three test pages, and the scroll bar was always
on the right).

Scroll bar: With the large orange box at the end of this test,
I was somehow expecting a scroll bar to show up at the side
of that box. But window resizing didn't help. It would be
good to say that you are checking the windows scrollbar,
and the box is only there to make the page longer.
(the "Check whether" text should probably be outside that box).

Regards,    Martin.

At 00:40 06/05/12, Richard Ishida wrote:
 >This is a set of pages that examine how right-to-left and bidirectional
 >text affects user agents outside of the main content area.
 >The tests seek to determine whether a user agent handles browser crome
 >differently when the html, or the body, or the head element has the dir
 >attribute set to rtl. Some user agents move the vertical scrollbar and
 >display javascript popup boxes right-to-left in certain circumstances.
 >You can find more news and an RSS feed relating to the work of the
 >Internationalization Activity at our Blog/Home Page
 >Richard Ishida
 >Internationalization Lead
 >W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
Received on Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:25:42 UTC

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