- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:00:30 -0000
- To: "'Steven Pemberton'" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>, <w3c-html-wg@w3.org>
- Cc: <www-i18n-comments@w3.org>
Dear Steven, Many thanks for your comments on the 2nd Last Call version of the Character Model for the World Wide Web v1.0 [1]. We appreciate the interest you have taken in this specification. You can see the comments you submitted on behalf of the HTML WG, grouped together, at http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/SortByGroup.html#C129 (You can jump to a specific comment in the table by adding its ID to the end of the URI.) PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following additional comments and reply to us within the next two weeks at mailto:www-i18n-comments@w3.org (copying w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org) to say whether you are satisfied with the decision taken. C129, C132 Information relating to these comments is included below. The Character Model has recently been split into two parts. Your comments relate to the editor's version at http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html Best regards, Richard Ishida, for the I18N WG DECISIONS REQUIRING A RESPONSE ============================== C129 E R C Steven Pemberton HTML WG P MD 3.6.3 'private agreements don't scale on the web' http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0000.html * Comment (received 2002-07-03) -- 'private agreements don't scale on the web' Well, they can scale. The real problem is that they don't interoperate. * Decision: Rejected. * Rationale: We believe that private agreements indeed do not scale on the Web. The text already contains the explanation why this is so: "Code points from different private agreements may collide. Also a private agreement, and therefore the meaning of the code points, can quickly become lost." (slight editorial changes from the LC version) The collision problem already exists for two private agreements, and very quickly increases with the number of agreements. C132 E P Steven Pemberton HTML WG P FY 3.3 Give example of transcoding * Comment (received 2002-07-03) -- Give example of transcoding http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0003.html * Comment (received 2002-07-05) -- Re: Give example of transcoding http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0005.html It would be useful if 3.3 gave an example of where transcoding is used, since this is a frequently misunderstood point with regards to XML and HTML. People (and some UAs) think that the encoding also specifies the repertoire/CCS. Something along the lines of: 'For example, in XML and HTML, documents are always in Unicode, but they may be delivered to a user agent in an encoding for another coded character set (indicated by the encoding attribute in XML, and the HTTP content-type header in HTML). The user agent then transcodes the characters of the incoming document stream into Unicode code points. For example, a document delivered with encoding iso-8859-2 may contain the string 'oő' where the first character (LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOUBLE ACUTE) is at code point 0xf5 in iso-8859-2. This will be transcoded so that there will be two identical characters at (Unicode) code point 0x0151 in the document as processed by the user agent.' * Decision: Partially accepted. Add an example of transcoding. * Rationale: Steven's example is too HTML-specific, and doesn't match with what we say, namely that transcoders don't resolve NCRs. * Comment (received 2003-05-01) -- Re: Your comments on the Character Model [C130, C131] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0010.html * Our response (sent 2003-05-08) -- RE: Your comments on the Character Model [C130, C131] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0016.html * Comment (received 2003-05-09) -- RE: Your comments on the Character Model [C130, C131] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0017.html * Our response (sent 2004-02-03) -- RE: Your comments on the Character Model [C130, C131] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2004Feb/0002.html USEFUL LINKS ============== [1] The version of CharMod you commented on: http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-charmod-20020430/ [2] Latest editor's version (still being edited): http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod2.html [3] Last Call comments table, sorted by ID: http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/
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