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Re: code, samp, kbd, var

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:56:59 +0000 (UTC)
To: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
Cc: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, www-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0705151953540.11553@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Tue, 15 May 2007, Tina Holmboe wrote:
> So HTML 5 should, as opposed to HTML 4, become a *mix* of a 
> presentational and structural language?
> Frankly, I wish you'd try to see the other side of this debate, Lachlan. 
> I have, since 1995, taught people that HTML is a *structural* language 
> and we are gaining ground. Slowly, perhaps, but we are getting there, 
> and as others have pointed out: it is /improving/* accessibility.
> HTML 5 is going to turn that upside down - and, yes, I do admit that I 
> am slightly bitter that twelve years of trying to impart something of 
> structure, semantics, and accessibility is going to be tossed down the 
> drain for the sake of, frankly, misguided 'pragmatism'.

For what it's worth, I actually agree with _you_, Tina. In fact in HTML5 
as it stands today the <i>, <b>, and <small> elements are not 
presentational. They stand for mood changes and other text that is neither 
emphasised nor part of the main flow of text, keywords, and small print 
(typically legalese) respectively. They are completely media-independent.

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