- From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 14:54:42 +0300
- To: John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>
- Cc: "'Laura Carlson'" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, <www-html@w3.org>, <public-html@w3.org>, "'Roger Johansson'" <roger@456bereastreet.com>, <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
On May 12, 2007, at 02:34, John Foliot wrote: > Semantics are critical to web accessibility, and promoting a vision > that > advocates, "We are against semantics for the sake of > semantics." [Lachlan > Hunt: http://tinyurl.com/ys7lbo] clearly illustrates how deep this > divide > is. It really doesn't help to say that "semantics are critical to Web accessibility". Instead, what would help is figuring out on a per- markup feature basis if a given semantic feature serves a realistic (existing or *realistically* anticipated) use case in AT implementations. Moreover, when weighing explicit semantics vs. heuristics in AT, one should assess the realistic net effects considering the incentives to authors. For example, it is more reasonable to require AT to walk the table model up and to the left to find the header cell for a given data cell by *default* than to expect authors to use id/headers in the simple cases. There are few AT vendors and they have the capability to hire developers who can write code that walks the table model instead of merely calling getElementById(). OTOH, it is much harder to badger countless authors to produce certain kind of attributes and do it correctly. Therefore, making the simple cases Just Work with less author involvement is more likely to lead to a net improvement of accessibility than insisting on educating authors about more complex markup features. Frankly, I think that an axiomatic "semantics are critical to Web accessibility" line risks causing specific pragmatic accessibility concerns to be taken less seriously (compare with crying wolf). P.S. Yeah, the above may require changes to AT, but I find it weird that some accessibility advocates (perhaps not you) seem to have an implied premise that AT cannot improve in response to HTML 5 but e.g. authoring tools can. -- Henri Sivonen hsivonen@iki.fi http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
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