- From: Jim Jewett <jimjjewett@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:49:16 -0400
- To: www-html@w3.org
- Cc: www-html-editor@w3.org, xhtml2-issues@hades.mn.aptest.com, ian@hixie.ch
I just noticed Ian Hixie's XHTML2 issue at http://hades.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/incoming?id=7820;user=guest and realized that a very similar issue had been dismissed on the www-html list because outlines are only one use, and should be left up to the user agent. So I wanted to bring this back up, and point out that the real question is not presentational; it is how headers are linked to blocks. I've marked up parts of his example with more explicit questions. To summarize: Should <h> elements have a for attribute that says which section/block they describe? Should they instead always describe the nearest enclosing section/block? Should they instead always describe the nearest following section/block? Are the rules the same for <h> and <h#> elements? Detailed questions: <body> <h> AAA </h> # Does this header describe the body, or the next section? # Or maybe even the implicit section of blocks before the # next section? <p> aaa </p> <h3> BBB </h3> # What about this one? Does it matter than this is an # h<number> instead of just an <h>? Does it matter # that it is an h3 instead of an h1? Even if skipping # levels is discouraged, I don't know whether it should # be h1 (first numbered header) or h2 (counting the h) <p> bbb </p> <h2> CCC </h2> # This header is right before a section. Previous # examples have suggested that an <h> here would # apply to the following section. Is that also true for # h<number> headers? <section> <h6> DDD </h6> # The other sensible choice is to always describe the # nearest enclosing section. But is an <h6> strong # enough for that, given than there is also an <h1> # in the same section? <p> ddd </p> <h1> EEE </h1> <ol> <li> eee </li> <li> <h> FFF </h> </li> # What does it mean if there are intervening # elements between the section and the h? <li> fff </li> </ol> <blockquote> <p> fff </p> <h> GGG </h> # Is this header part of/describing the quote, # or the enclosing document? <p> ggg </p> </blockquote> <p> ggg </p> </section> <p> ccc </p> </body> -jJ
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