- From: Christian Wolfgang Hujer <Christian.Hujer@itcqis.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 07:46:59 +0100
- To: cyril2@mail.ru, www-html@w3.org
- Cc: Liorean <Liorean@user.bip.net>
Dear Cyril, dear list members, Am Freitag, 29. November 2002 06:53 schrieb Cyril: > What is this, the "00:41 2002-11-26 +0300", Liorean? Is it a weather > forecast or a credit card information? But it isn't a traditional, human > date and it isn't the new, next standard, date (YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssTZD). > I can't remember how many those thoroughly researched standards for > dates existed in my life. Where they are now? And how I have tired! > Please, leave me the option, the freedom, at least, to choose on my own > which date format to use. Pro current format (YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssTZD): - Some people like it. - ASCII sorting - Internationalized - Already implemented - If you know it's capable of sorting, you really cannot intermix month and day. - It's easy to parse - It's similar to the date as it is stored in several RDBMS products Con current format: - Some people don't like it. - If you don't know it's for sorting, you /might/ intermix month and day, /as long/ as you don't know the format. Pro new format (Something with three letter english month name abbreviations in it) - Some people like it. - Month cannot be intermixed with day Con new format: - Some people don't like it. - Not easily sortable (not sortable by simple string comparison) - Not Internationalized - Changes in current implementations of User Agents are neccessary - Complex to parse (though it's not really really complex, but it is definitely much more complex than the current one) - Incompatibility between User Agents while the new format is introduced - Most current user agents' vendors are still not able to handle HTML 4 or HTML 4.01, not speaking of XHTML. Don't do any unneccessary changes in data formats until they had time to adopt. (On the other hand: Obviously bad CMM levels of user agent vendors must not be a reason to discontinue developing of new stanrads.) Anyway: Those people that have chosen that time format aren't stupids. They had reasonable thoughts to choose that format. probably much more than we just collected on the list. I think most uf us absolutely disqualify to continue discussion on that topic for several reasons. So I suggest to just enhance my Pro/Con-Lists to add the points I missed (I must admit that I do have my own opinion and though I tried to be objective in the list above I probably failed on that, so let the other party express their thoughts) and then quickly stop this thread. Bye -- ITCQIS GmbH Christian Wolfgang Hujer Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter Telefon: +49 (0)89 27 37 04 37 Telefax: +49 (0)89 27 37 04 39 E-Mail: Christian.Hujer@itcqis.com WWW: http://www.itcqis.com/
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