- From: MegaZone <megazone@livingston.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:44:30 -0700 (PDT)
- To: www-html@w3.org
Once upon a time David Perrell shaped the electrons to say... >OK, I thought NEST was sorta bird-brained, but OPTGROUP looks pretty clever to >me. Sure beats FRAMEs. It would be nice to have this kind of menuing capabilit >without scripting or ActiveX. NEST was an obvious move - an element that groups things. But I was never really comfortable with it. The big thing that bugged me was having things appear multiple times in older browsers. I just wasn't thinking laterally enough. When I read the HTML 4.0 spec and saw 'axes' and 'axis' I started thinking about it again. I really think this new proposal is more robust and provides a better system for non-traditional UAs. Someone using an aural browser doesn't need to listen to a long list, they can listen to the section headers and only pick the ones they need. Same for things like PDAs or web-enabled cell phones (don't laugh - I've seen them), etc, with small screens. The big 2 might not bother, and it might be a headache for Lynx (though I have seen pop-ups done in curses mode - our terminal interface on our HW config tool does it), but then they probably won't bother with them on TABLE either. Though it is a dream to get that effect in a graphical browser. Actually, knowing how cool the Lynx folks have been to date, it wouldn't surprise me to see Lynx with it before either of the big 2. :-) >"Disabled"? Tsk tsk. I think the correct terminology is "functionally dormant Hey, just using their terms. :-) >You may be high. I wish - I wouldn't be as stressed. -MZ -- Livingston Enterprises - Chair, Department of Interstitial Affairs Phone: 800-458-9966 510-737-2100 FAX: 510-737-2110 megazone@livingston.com For support requests: support@livingston.com <http://www.livingston.com/> Snail mail: 4464 Willow Road, Pleasanton, CA 94588
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