- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:38:16 -0500
- To: Jordan Reiter <jreiter@mail.slc.edu>
- CC: khare@w3.org, chris@ora.com, www-html@w3.org
Jordan Reiter wrote:
> All this, mind you, in a page linking off of the page of the official W3C
> journal. And people wonder why elements are referred to as "tags" and
> people still use "B" or "I" instead of "STRONG" and "EM"!
Mr. Reiter has misattributed the content below. It occurs
on a page at:
[1] http://www.ora.com/info/wj/w3style/copyedit.html
i.e. an O'Reilly page. The page is not signed, but a page
on the path between http://www.w3.org/Consortium/ and that
page says:
=========
http://www.w3.org/Journal/call_papers.html
If you would like to submit a technical paper to the World Wide Web
Journal, please contact Rohit Khare.
...
For detailed instructions on how to
submit figures and screen shots, please contact Chris Reilly.
=========
I have copied Rohit and Chris so that the folks responsible
for the page can see the comments. But I believe they are
concentrating their efforts on a new site for W3J:
http://www.w3j.com/
Hmm... the new site links to [1] as well.
>
> At 8:02 AM -0500 1997-09-09, Arnaud Le Hors wrote:
> !>W3C "is open to any organization which signs a membership agreement."
> !>[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/]
>
> I folowed this link, found out that since I wasn't a member of an
> organization, I couldn't join. Okay. No problem. But then, I followed
> the link below, first to the World Wide Web journal ("A Publication of the
> World Wide Web Consortium"), then to the call for papers, and finally to
> the "style" page, which instructed on the use of style in the creation of
> HTML documents for the journal. Imagine how shocked I was to find this:
> !>Copyediting Guide
> !>
> !>Font Conventions
> !>
> !> Italic is used for:
> !> Filenames and directory names (/etc/hosts)
> !> Internet names and addresses (ora.com)
> !> New key terms and concepts when they are
> !> introduced
> !>
> !> Use the <I> tag to produce italics.
> Uh oh. The <I> tag? Now <EM>that's</EM> a no-no!
> !> Courier (Constant width) is used to show computer
> !> output and fragments of source code.
> "Courier" -- this is pretty Platform specific, I'd say. Also, wouldn't
> <KBD> and <SAMP> be *much* more appropriate?
> !> Use the <tt> tag to produce constant width text.
> Don't they mean <PRE>? At least, they should if they want to have it
> constant w/ regards to the next line.
> !> Courier bold is used within examples when text is
> !> typed literally by the user (% shar -f /tmp/shar.tmp
> !> *).
> !>
> !> Create courier bold with nested font tags, like this:
>
> Nested *font* TAGS? Oh my goodness!
>
> !> <tt><b>courier bold text</b></tt>
> !>
> !> Note: you may not see proper courier bold on your
> !> display because browsers are not required to support
> !> nested font changes. Our filter will understand.
> !>
> !> Courier italic is used within examples when the
> !> reader needs to substitute a variable with an actual value (%
> !> telnet hostname).
> !>
> !> Create courier italic with nested font tags, like this:
> !>
> !> <tt><i>courier italic text</i></tt>
> !>
> !> As with courier bold, your browser may not display this
> !> nesting as constant italic.
> [snip]
>
> !>References, Bibliographies, and Footnotes
> !>
> !> For in-text references, use the form [1] in the text, with
> !> the corresponding source listed in the Reference section
> !> like this:
> !>
> !> 1. Name of author, Name of article, Name of
> !> publication, Date, Pages.
> (in the HTML code itself, since you can't see it in plain text):
>
> 1. Name of author, <i>Name of article</i>, <i>Name of publication</i>,
> Date, Pages.
>
> First of all, the names of articles, according to almost all bibliographic
> standards, including MLA's [1], are in quotes, NOT italicized. Secondly,
> shouldn't <CITE> be used instead of <i> for "Name of publication"?
>
> All this, mind you, in a page linking off of the page of the official W3C
> journal. And people wonder why elements are referred to as "tags" and
> people still use "B" or "I" instead of "STRONG" and "EM"!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> [ Jordan Reiter ]
> [ mailto:jreiter@mail.slc.edu ]
> [ "You can't just say, 'I don't want to get involved.' ]
> [ The universe got you involved." --Hal Lipset, P.I. ]
> --------------------------------------------------------
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Dan
http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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