- From: E. Stephen Mack <estephen@emf.net>
- Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:32:06 -0700
- To: www-html@w3.org
In the Inclusions section of HTML 4.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40/struct/includes.html there is an example of a run-time parameter for a declared OBJECT: -----8<-----excerpt-----8<----- The following example illustrates how to specify run-time values that are other objects. In this example, we send text (a poem, in fact) to a hypothetical mechanism for viewing poems. The rendering mechanism recognizes a run-time parameter named "font" (say, for rendering the poem text in a certain font). The value for this parameter is itself an object that inserts (but does not render) the font object. The relationship between the font object and the poem viewer object is achieved by (1) assigning the id "tribune" to the font object declaration and (2) referring to it from the PARAM element of the poem viewer object (with valuetype and value). <OBJECT declare id="tribune" type="application/x-webfont" data="tribune.gif"> </OBJECT> ...view the poem in KublaKhan.txt here... <OBJECT classid="http://foo.bar.com/poem_viewer" data="KublaKhan.txt"> <PARAM name="font" valuetype="object" value="#tribune"> <P>You're missing a really cool poem viewer ... </OBJECT> -----8<-----end_excerpt-----8<----- The part that confuses me is the placement of "...view the poem in KublaKhan.txt here..." because it is not nested within an OBJECT element (instead it just sits between two OBJECT elements). Hmm. I just realized that this text is italicized, sorry, emphasized, to indicate that it's a meta comment about the code. But is this comment recommending that its position is the location of the alternate text for browsers that don't understand the OBJECT element? Ah, no, I just understood -- the phrsae is commenting on the fact that the next OBJECT element is about to display a poem. I find this practice of including meta-comments within example code confusing. I'd prefer to see the example code here simply split up into two code fragments, with something in between them in normal style. Such as: the first OBJECT example, then "Later on in the document, you could use the following OBJECT element, which causes the KublaKhan.txt poem to appear in poem_viewer. The PARAM element used here passes the previously declared font information from the earlier OBJECT element." Then put the second OBJECT example. The document conventions (convent.html) say that informative notes will be emphasized, but that isn't very specific -- I didn't realize before that this convention applied to comments in code fragments. Also, please consider marking notes that are in the middle of example code with a visible separator (such as "[") and/or use the Note style that is defined in your style sheet. Well, I have two more comments about this example. 1. For caching or "pre-loading" purposes, should a browser load a declared OBJECT at the moment of declaration, or only when it is referenced? If the latter, what method of "preloading" OBJECTs does HTML 4.0 advocate? 2. Please make the alternate text in this example more helpful so that Web authors do not emulate its brevity and lack of alternate presentation. I'm sure we're all sick of seeing alternate text/NOFRAMES material that is nothing more than a flip "update your browser!" -- so instead of "You're missing a really cool poem viewer ...", how about "The cool poem viewer is not available with your browser, but here is the poem it would have displayed: <BR> In Xanadu did Kubla Khan ..." Hope these comments are helpful. -- E. Stephen Mack <estephen@emf.net> http://www.emf.net/~estephen/
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