- From: Robert Hazeltine <rhazltin@zeppo.nepean.uws.edu.au>
- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:42:54 +1000 (EET)
- To: "Daniel W. Connolly" <connolly@beach.w3.org>
- Cc: Davide Musella <davidmsl@anti.tesi.dsi.unimi.it>, kmm@w3.org, dsr@w3.org, khare@w3.org, hallam@w3.org, www-html@w3.org
Dan On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Daniel W. Connolly wrote: > > I'd like to point out that this thread has escaped the bounds of > HTML, and has become a discussion of knowledge representation in > general. Maybe, but there is nothing like a little debate to sharpen up ideas. No? > It happens quite a bit. Much of the value of HTML is its ability to > capture and represent knowledge in an informal or semi-formal way. > But folks often run into the boundaries of its expressive capability, > and look for ways out. > > The META tag is intended for experiments on the edge of HTML's > expressive capability. I haven't seen "the answer" to this problem > that I'd like to standardize. I think that this is begging the question. The original poster has identified a serious deficiency in my view which is the lack of meta-information, whether or not the present or future specs deal with the problem with these elements. If I can again re-iterate the problem: applications can be identified (even if not always optimally) through the use of a file name and a README which contains information about authorship, versions and amendment dates etc sometimes as brief as a Revision Control System statement. At least people in the know can, for example, identify the distribution copy of the netscape browser; others are going to pick it up at they go; but it is identifable. On the other hand, there is no equivalent for text material (HTTP aside). Individual text files are the equivalent of a chapter, section or whatever torn from a book so that there is no cover or front page to identify it. Combine that with duplicate names and you might begin to understand the problems of a mirror site that wants to archive text, even before we get to the location (URCs, etc), catalogue and permanency of material. > The point of my message is to encourage those of you who are seriously > interested in this topic to become familiar with the existing work in > the field: both the traditional library science cataloging (sp?) > stuff, and the more wigged-out AI knowledge representation stuff. > > Reading the background literature will show just how interesting > and complex this problem is. Hmm... maybe that's not 100% a good > thing: the web was largely built by folks who didn't know enough > realize that it couldn't be done :-) So you really don't mind if I don't realise why something can't be done about this problem :) > [bibliography omitted] Rob...
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